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At least one injured in Indianapolis shooting; shots fired at police car Posted: Jul 24, 2014 4:46 PM EST Updated: Jul 25, 2014 12:14 AM EST INDIANAPOLIS An 89-year-old woman was injured in a shooting on the Indianapolis northeast side Thursday evening. Officers say the suspect fired on a police car, although no officers were injured. It happened in the 3300 block of Guilford Ave. Officers have one person detained, and they are searching for another person in connection with the shooting. A responding officer says as he exited his vehicle, the suspect fired a shot at the officer. The officers did not return fire and was not injured in the incident. The victim, Sally Lisenby, was shot in the arm. Police describe her as an "innocent victim" who may have been sitting outside in the area of 34th and Carrollton when she was struck. The woman, who is in her eighties, was taken to Eskenazi Health in stable condition. "She's in a lot of pain. Arm is swollen. She is sedated. I think she's more traumatized than anything - and shock," said Lisenby's great granddaughter Terri Wells. "I don't think they're going to take the bullet out because of where it's lodged. She was shot in the arm. The back of her arm is where the bullet is, that's where it was swollen. It would do her more harm to take the bullet out. So as of today, they're going to leave it there right now." Wells says Lisenby was like a mother to the neighborhood where she's lived for 50 years, sometimes making meals and helping others in need. Police say it's possible Lisenby was caught in the crossfire between others who were firing at each other. Several police units responded to the scene in the area of Fairfield and College Avenue, as well as 34th and Carrollton. Officers armed with rifles set up a perimeter and searched for the suspects, eventually detaining one man who had a graze wound on his arm. That man was taken to Eskenazi Health, then to the IMPD Homicide office for questioning. The second suspect has not yet been located. Around 8:30 p.m. Thursday, officers with the IMPD SWAT team entered a home in the 3400 block of Guilford Avenue with search dogs. Police later say they found a gun in that residence. Anyone with information is urged to call IMPD detectives at 317-327-3475. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to call Crime Stoppers of Indiana at 317-262-TIPS (8477). Callers can also text "INDYCS" plus tip information to 274637(CRIMES).
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Nancy Johnson ·
Top Commenter · Broad Ripple & Lawrence North
"Respecting convicted offenders" If it is there first offense I could yes give him another chance. But if he is a repeat like most of these thugs are, why would we want to respect them. They are a menace to society. Reply · Like · 2 hours ago Donald Henry ·
Top Commenter · Southwestern
Nothing unusual. Reply · Like · 13 hours ago MadameSusan Thomas ·
Top Commenter · IDAC
Please IMPD get this rabid dog. Marion County get his cage ready. Reply · Like ·
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Chet Hayes ·
Top Commenter · Indiana Wesleyan University
How do we know he's a rabid dog? We really don't know the circumstances in this case yet to make a judgment like that !!!! Reply · Like · Jim Dryer ·
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Chet Hayes ......Yeah, right Chet. We all know that you think he's a choirboy, turning his life around, victim of circumstances...blah, blah, blah. The THUG was exchanging gunfire with another THUG and an innocent person was shot. But, I guess in your world, that's not a problem. He's just like the rest of these gun-happy; murdering THUGS...he's an animal and rabid dog fits as well as any. Reply · Like ·
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Melissam Mcglaun ·
Top Commenter · Purdue University
shot at police wake up he gives rabid dogs a bad name Reply · Like ·
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David Myers ·
Top Commenter · Works at Retired
Yep now it looks like two teens having a shootout. Reply · Like · 4 hours ago Jeff Mason · U. Indianapolis Your solutions Mr. Tisdal? Reply · Like · 15 hours ago Derrick Tisdal ·
Top Commenter · American College of Technology
Since you're so interested Jeff...I'll give you just a few. If you want to be part of the solution, you might have heard of some of these ideas in some of the meetings we've had. One idea involves respecting residents of high-crime areas. Stop-n-frisk police action may suppress crime but it will not solve the underlying issues. Officers will have to form a bond with the people they police. That means getting out of their cars. Another idea is respecting convicted offenders. It is cheaper and more effective to rehabilitate returning prisoners than to incarcerate them. The police could also begin "aggressively" investigate burglaries. Mos tcriminals simply graduate from burglaries to more serious stuff--research shows that burglars, particularly those caught via DNA evidence, already have long track records of serious offending. Another idea is getting DNA from everyone but there may be some legal boundaries
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that will prevent that. One of the most successful ways to combat the rising crime here is through gentrification. Research shows that places that are integrated have less crime than places that are economically and racially segregated. And, when a crime-ridden place gentrifies, much of the crime does not follow the residents who leave. It simply disperses. That is because the crime was about an infected place, not about the residents who live there. Jeff, those are just a few ideas...what are some of your ideas? Reply · Like ·
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Cherry Jonel ·
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Derrick Tisdal Just so you know, Stop-N-frisk violates a lot of things. And no, that is not the solution. Just FYI, an officer has to have a reasonable, articulable suspicion before making contact with anyone. You might want to research that first before suggesting it. My suggestion, harsher penalties for any attempted murder and death penalties for murderers. These have no room in society if they're so willingly to take a life. And for reality check, these perps don't really care what happens to them. Reply · Like · Derrick Tisdal ·
1 · 14 hours ago Top Commenter · American College of Technology
Cherry Jonel I was a police officer for a little over 15 years so I think I know how the game is played and probably a lot better than you. Nothing and I mean nothing prevents an officer from having a friendly chat with anyone and I mean anyone on the street. That is how most officers obtain their probable cause and PC to one officer may mean something totally different to another. We have played the harsher sentence thing for years and all it gets you is a harsher and more educated criminal when he gets out. How long does it take someone to realize that? Yeah, lock 'em up and throw away the key will solve all our crime problems....pleeeezze! You use the word perp which makes me think you may have law enforcement experience, but then your words.... Reply · Like · Donald Henry ·
2 · 13 hours ago Top Commenter · Southwestern
We don't want ex cons. thugs ho's and trash in our neighborhood. Reply · Like · Donald Henry ·
1 · 13 hours ago Top Commenter · Southwestern
Derrick Tisdal why don't you leave? Reply · Like · 13 hours ago Cherry Jonel ·
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Derrick Tisdal So just because you were an law enforcer, you condone stop-N-frisk? You never said anything about chatting anyone. I bet you would ask anyone on a traffic stop if they have a firearm right? Then ask them to unload it in the name of officer safety? And yes, the officer can approach anyone and it can be a consensual meet. Just because you are in that field doesn't means you would know every aspect of the law or rights. And also typing perpetrator is too long but you like to pick on that too. Look, I don't want to go back and forth about what you said as it just digs a deeper issue. As to solving the problem, you suggest that these offenders (if that's what you prefer) do have any hope of rehabbing? How many repeat offenders have been caught? You probably have those stats and if you want to enlighten us, do so. My other suggestion, if the community really cares, they need to rat these people out, provide tips to places or to persons of interest. We keep hearing these "We need to come together for this." but are they really? Somebody knows someone. But that's not going to happen for fear of being killed/threats. And that brings another question. My belief is that all these problems stems how these offenders were brought up, just my opinion.
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Reply · Like · 13 hours ago Derrick Tisdal ·
Top Commenter · American College of Technology
I'm offering free tickets to all of you who want to leave....since all of you appear to be part of the problem and not the solution...CYA! The bus leaves at 6. Reply · Like ·
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Jerry Minnick Sr ·
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I'm not part of the problem because I pay my way, I pay more than my share of taxes, I follow the laws, I vote and I served my country 20+ years. I also have a job that i'll retire from in four years...then I'll say "good bye" and enjoy my home a short walk from the besch. Oh, I'll take the ticket, Derrick, and give it to a veteran. Reply · Like ·
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Derrick Tisdal ·
Top Commenter · American College of Technology
Jerry Minnick Sr ..thanks for your service to your country. I too served this great country in the USMC and even went to Iraq twice as a military contractor so we have one thing in common. But when you say you pay your taxes and that when you retire you'll say goodbye, it reminded me of a sniper buddy who used to always say "don't run, you'll only die tired". You can have a ticket buddy! Reply · Like · Donald Henry ·
1 · 13 hours ago
Top Commenter · Southwestern
The officer did not return fire. What's wrong with that picture. Reply · Like ·
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Cherry Jonel ·
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There's nothing wrong with that picture, the police are following the rules of firearm safety, knowing where the target is and what's behind it. Reply · Like ·
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Jeff Mason · U. Indianapolis Press rewind daily...... Reply · Like ·
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Jerry Minnick Sr ·
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This city has turned into a cesspool. Indy -- especially Broadripple -- has become the new Detroit/Chicago garbage dump. Can't move soon enough. Reply · Like · Jim Dryer ·
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And we all know the general description of the two shooters. Reply · Like ·
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David Myers ·
Top Commenter · Works at Retired
Now Jim, you are asking for it. Reply · Like · Jim Dryer ·
1 · 18 hours ago Top Commenter
David Myers .....Well, there is really no need to be any more specific since, again, we all know the general description. Reply · Like ·
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Nathan Sapp · (IUPUI)
Top Commenter · Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis
Do you mean to suggest the description is 'person with a gun' or are you implying something else? Reply · Like · 4 hours ago Jim Dryer ·
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Nathan Sapp ........I'm hardly "implying" anything. I am stating that the description of the two THUGS will fit the general profile of the vast majority of these instances. But, deep down, you already know that.....or you should. Reply · Like · Nathan Sapp · (IUPUI)
1 · 4 hours ago Top Commenter · Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis
The common thread I see with all of the criminal shootings is a person with a gun. There are other correlations, but the resounding one is simply a 'person with a gun'. Through the logic of correlation that you're using, perhaps that means that any one with a gun is a 'thug'? I agree that a description of each specific suspect would be nice to have, I don't like, or approve, of your implication that anyone who is responsible for these behaviors is like to fit the 'general profile of the vast majority of these instances'. Crime is personal, not societal, and thus, the criminal is unique, although they share common characteristics with the non-criminal. Using the flawed logic that people with guns are criminals, we can see the truth in my thought. Using your flawed logic, we would associate an entire segment of society with criminal activity, when instead, the segment that is responsible for each crime is the individual criminal, and nothing more. Your implicit racist comments are not lost on me, or many of your supporters. How about we just state that the person/s responsible for the crime should be held accountable. If we want to dig deeper, we might even question if some of these instances were actually criminal in nature, self-defense, or any other possibility. Reply · Like · 4 hours ago Jim Dryer ·
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Nathan Sapp ......You really need to read the reports concerning violent criminal activity in the area. Perhaps then you will be able to logically determine the correlation between these crimes and those who commit them. As for my "implicit racist comments"....please point out where I made any reference whatsoever to any race. You are the one bringing "race" into this equation. How illogical of you. Reply · Like · David Myers ·
1 · 3 hours ago Top Commenter · Works at Retired
These news reports are racist also. They only report crime where the people are black. Reply · Like · 3 hours ago Nathan Sapp · (IUPUI)
Top Commenter · Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis
Nice spin tactic Jim. I stand by all of my comments and you can refuse to acknowledge your intended message as truth if you want, but you draw your line clearly without actually saying it. Nothing illogical in my ability to read between the lines. Reply · Like · about an hour ago Jim Dryer ·
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Nathan Sapp ........You are assuming a great deal and I think you know what "assuming" does for you. I would hope that someone with your obvious intelligence would be capable of reading the daily news events concerning the crime in Indianapolis and be capable of discerning who the normal "suspects" are.
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Reply · Like · about an hour ago Timothy Fihe ·
Top Commenter · Ball State University
as well as the blue Pledge WTHR should post a MAP with recent shootings and other violent crimes, much like the highway maps that identify road constructions, hazards so that the citizens can avoid the area. Reply · Like ·
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Derek J Walton · (IUPUI)
Top Commenter · Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis
Indy Star has one here- http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2013/10/28/ interactive-marion-county-homicide-map/3289645/ Reply · Like · 3 hours ago Cody Corbin http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2013/10/28/interactive-marion-county-h omicide-map/3289645/ Reply · Like · 3 hours ago Nancy Johnson ·
Top Commenter · Broad Ripple & Lawrence North
This is a homicide map. I would like to see one for all violent crimes. Reply · Like · 2 hours ago Shawn S Hartwell ·
Top Commenter · Indianapolis, Indiana
Fine him & Shoot & kill him . It Time to Fight Back ! Reply · Like ·
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David James ·
Top Commenter · Nuclear Scientist at Oak Ridge National Laboratory
kinda like " kill them all, let God sort it out". LOL Reply · Like · Jim Dryer ·
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David James .....Good idea. Reply · Like ·
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