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status Please join me in five minutes for #ukedchat - "Does APP work? What other formative assessment tools do you use? Do they work?" To avoid confusion, may I suggest that we use 'APP' when referring to assessing pupils progress and 'app' for mobile applications? #ukedchat RT @BryanPlumb:, may I suggest 'APP' for assessing pupils & 'app' for mobile applications? #ukedchat< especially for an APP app. #ukedchat hosted by @colport this evening "Does APP work? What other formative assessment tools do you use? Do they work?" RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat Assessment needs to be seen as integral to the learner, not just a tick box to measure learning. RT @CliveBuckley: RT @TheNewHead: RT @wjputt: #ukedchat Please re-tweet TeachMeet 13th Oct in Holywell http://www.teachmeet.org.uk/ #tm My first #ukedchat :) We're just starting to use APP for Numeracy. I'm hopeful, but not sure about the best way to log evidence. Post-its?! #ukedchat RT @jamesmichie: RT @TheHeadsOffice Your views on school behaviour are needed here http://bit.ly/bE7Qfd Welcome to #ukedchat - Tonight focus "Does APP work? What other formative assessment tools do you use? Do they work?" I am hoping the discussion will go beyond APP, to demonstrate good practices of formative assessment in all sectors #ukedchat #ukedchat likely to lurk, not really my area this one @OhLottie who are you assessing for? why evidence? why the obsession with banks of evidence? what happened to trusting judgements #ukedcha @sh1916 #ukedchat can I suggest that you contact @Sport_ed who is using a lot of iPad apps in his teaching. Please remember to use the hashtag #ukedchat to have your comments included within the archive RT @Julian3576: #ukedchat Assessment needs to be seen as integral to the learner, not just a tick box to measure learning. If we can focus on methods people use in collecting and using Assessing Pupils Progress in Maths/English and other subjects? #ukedchat #ukedchat Simple answer is yes APP does work-when done properly. Formative assessment/assessment for learning is the key. The work of Black & William are key to this. #ukedchat @cleverfiend Are teachers' judgements in assessment ever enough these days? #ukedchat Is it too obvious to say that any assessment should be used as an aid/enhancement of learning and not for number counting... #ukedchat APP criteria for assessing maths in y1 seems far too complex/OTT to me @colport #ukedchat #ukedchat Assessment is great when pupils reflect and reinforce own understanding and great when used to inform others. @Ideas_Factory That sounds like discussion over. Can I go to bed now? #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory isn't the case with all meaningful assessment? #ukedchat APP is a focus area within our (primary) school. I am trying to use GoogleForms/Spreadsheet to store data #ukedchat http://bit.ly/8qORcp what sorts of methods do different settings use for APP? #ukedchat #ukedchat I've seen schools bogged down with evidence gathering, target setting and sublevels. Does this improve learning? Convince me :) @Crosbiei @cleverfiend I think tchr opinions are essential, but as with everything it is all about evidence, evidence, evidence. #ukedchat If assessment linked to school performance or teacher pay, then yes, there should be evidence. #ukedchat @wjputt #ukedchat 'Inside the Black Box' is great book AforL is about learners knowing where they are and what they need to do to move on. Teachers & peers can help with this. #ukedchat #ukedchat We use PupilAsset.com when doing APP. It has sections to fwrite in evidence, you can attach photos, video etc as evidence in each @colport we could but that would take me out of the conversation...I will sit back for a bit. #ukedchat #ukedchat Please take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-bL1jBLeHU a system I developed to use with my class. @artpod I have found maths quite a difficult area for APP - http://bit.ly/8qORcp - currently trying Google to support collection #ukedchat I find APP quite liberating in terms of marking - enjoy transparency of sharing AFs & then using level descriptors to give fdback #ukedchat #ukedchat Formative assessment at its simplest: If chn didn't 'get' something today, then I don't move on! I change my approach + try again. #ukedchat If you show loads of evidence for yr 3 pupils, it shows you know what you're looking for and you can be relied on to assess others RT @colport: APP is a focus area within our (primary) school. I am trying to use GoogleForms/Spreadsheet to store data #ukedchat http://bit.ly/8qO @wjputt Can you link towards Black & William work please? #ukedchat AforL improves learning & learner capacity to develop as independent learners & indeed lifelong ones. #ukedchat @KnikiDavies Is PupilAsset.com paid for? I'm assuming so! #ukedchat RT @wjputt: Formative assessment/assessment for learning is the key. The work of Black & William are key to this. #ukedchat
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@MrKp #ukedchat I do it for the whole class but only show detailed annotated evidence for 3. #ukedchat Every professional needs to be accountable in this day and age, just that tick boxes say nothing. #ukedchat - sorry I'm late - what is tonight's topic? (sorry to non-teacher followers - may be a few educational tweets occuring) are we talking about APP and assessment in #ukedchat ? @KnikiDavies #ukedchat But even if levels were sent with the child, would you make your own evaluation of that child or rely on some1 elses? @largerama It's a hell of a lot better than purely relying on exams :o) #ukedchat every assessment approach has pros and cons - you need to have more than one method in the toolkit #ukedchat @DrAshCasey @Ideas_Factory You have to back up your judgment with evidence, via observations, work etc. #ukedchat @mrkp #ukedchat Assessing the 3 focus chn shows I know what I'm doing and can be trusted when they look at results I give for other 30 So many competing initiatives & requests for data reporting at 2ndary think some teachers see it as an imposition #ukedchat #ukedchat Some great work from colleagues on AfL for last 2 years at Holywell - moving learning & achievement on. #tmhhs 13-10-10 Pls come. @DrAshCasey @colport #ukedchat It used to be that assessment was based on teacher say-so.It should be based on teacher know-how.APP is thi @Crosbiei I actually think it should, I am training at the moment and there seems to be no clear guidance on how to do this well! #ukedchat Intrigued that most find APP harder with num. than lit. We're just introducing it in num. + my feeling was that it'd be easier! #ukedchat @Crosbiei #ukedchat point is tht value added uses levels sent up.If chld comes to me with 3B I have to make 2 SLs regardless of what i think @duckinwales @deerwood Does APP work? What other formative assessment tools do you use? Do they work? #ukedchat RT @dailydenouement: #ukedchat RT @wjputt: @colport as schools adopt more AfL approaches the learning will improve - will take time to 'lose' n Used a grt approach in recent work called 'teaching experiments' where you try to understand the students' construction of an idea #ukedchat Okay, I'll go watch Eastenders or something more life affirming #ukedchat LOL Wanted to #ukedchat from @flyingstartedu 2nite, but thu is bad night 4 me 2 sit @ computer. Hopefully i'll have great guest review 2 post :) I do actually fear for APP, and the principles behind it, under the new government #ukedchat @colport it's not foolproof - but then nothing is! #ukedchat @BryanPlumb but is it better than NC levels #ukedchat @DrAshCasey Agree - definitely linked to culture and the 'way we do things'. #ukedchat @03mghanem #ukedchat I completely agree. I have only been teaching a few yrs and have had a v steep learning curve on assessment. @OhLottie #ukedchat It's easier in that it's more clearcut, harder in that there are millions of descriptors seemingly randomly arranged! #ukedchat Assessment should not just data points, but show learning taking place as it happens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGvTELAz_k Anyone you still doing APP and half termly/termly 'tests'? Doesn't this defeat the object?!? #ukedchat @OhLottie #ukedchat EG: probability doesn't appear with other data handling targets, appears somewhere in multiplying or something... @Ideas_Factory @colport it may be 'a way' but I am sceptical of anything that is branded as 'the way' the world was flat afterall #ukedchat @KnikiDavies #ukedchat But do u always agree that they were a 3B when they came up? We have a real prob with that from KS1 to KS2 @largerama every assessment system routes back (or should do) to NC levels #ukedchat @sellyeve Summative assessments are not foolproof either. With these things, there needs to be careful moderation & consideration #ukedchat #ukedchat When do you assess? When taught? Can they do it two weeks later? @thingwallpri #ukedchat We do termly formal assessments in writing and mark the piece using APP grid. V. good for setting next target @Crosbiei @KnikiDavies Surely you start with the levels chn come with but can disagree with them after your own assessment? #ukedchat #ukedchat I find it frustrating that we use APP throughout science then report on level descriptors not APP at the end of each KS. Bit daft! RT @colport: I do actually fear for APP, and the principles behind it, under the new government #ukedchat @Crosbiei I certainly don't always agree that. That's why you need lots of evidence and moderation #ukedchat @largerama good question. I couldn't possibly say, not being a teacher and thus not involved in a daily basis. Thoughts anyone? #ukedchat @MrG_ICT I assess as I am going along, then make judgements on a half-termly basis #ukedchat Have consistent school designed APP for all subjects use this to assess & monitor attainment/progress then link APP to eportfolio #ukedchat Reception teachers have been doing this for years-assessment based on careful observation & recording of pupil work #ukedchat @colport agreed - but then you can't look at any data in isolation... #ukedchat #ukedchat As a teacher I find it hard to relate to the Science APP... but know APP is the best way to assess science, just who write them? @DrAshCasey @colport #ukedchat It's onlt 'the way' because there's no viable alternative available @MrKp To me, as a teacher, I should know where all my (primary school) pupils are in the progress within my classroom #ukedchat the problem with APP is that the experts have added to it & evolved it as they went along! #ukedchat @OhLottie #ukedchat When LA look at your school data, they take the levels they came up with as base to assess your school's performance APP for reading is a tough one I find. Using a memo machine is useful but can distract the children from what is said #ukedchat @Julian3576 #ukedchat Normally a panel of emminent experts in the field-who you've never heard of.... @gideonwilliams I think e-portfolios have a lot of scope in secondary schools especially. Keep an eye on www.myebooklearning.com #ukedchat I like this idea a lot! RT @colport I am trying to use GoogleForms/Spreadsheet to store data #ukedchat http://bit.ly/8qORcp @sellyeve i know that but is the app a more accurate/efficient/easier route to assessing the levels #ukedchat and is it here to stay? Some secondary sci depts are starting to equate APP with AfL - an activity that happens once a half term/topic -that's bad surely? #ukedchat RT @colport: @MrKp as a teacher, I know where all my pupils are< but do all parents, other teachers and the pupils them selves? #ukedchat @KnikiDavies #ukedchat How can the LA 'come-up' with levels without links to raiseonline etc? @Ideas_Factory @DrAshCasey It is hard to think about something to replace APP which does not verge towards summarive #ukedchat @iteachyear4 #ukedchat Yes reading is tough I find. Esp as each level in each AF is only 1 or 2 sentences yet covers so much! @Ideas_Factory @colport I don't buy that. I used cooperative learning for peer/peer assessment and my observations to gd effect #ukedchat @Crosbiei A level 3c at KS1 is automatically 'secure' level 3 at KS2, hence 3b #ukedchat @KnikiDavies Are you talking about end of KS1 levels? I was talking about levels from previous teacher, whatever the year group #ukedchat APP with target setting could be real buy in for students - must be transparent and valued #ukedchat @cleverfiend #ukedchat Doesn't AfL happen every lesson?! @OhLottie Thanks. I had a brain wave on a train from Glasgow. It's free, and always accessible for me to add #ukedchat http://bit.ly/8qORcp #ukedchat I know that most of the people I with really really don't like APP as they see it as pointless paperwork. RT @colport: @gideonwilliams I think e-portfolios have a lot of scope in secondary schools especially. Keep an eye on www.myebooklearning.com @artpod Agreed, which is why I am always looking to make the process easier for me #ukedchat @colport #ukedchat I agree but with my management head on I don't want to force people to do something that has massive workload cont... @DrAshCasey @colport #ukedchat But that's obs of pupils in grps not as indiv-that's the difference True! RT @Ideas_Factory Reception has been doing this for years-assessment based on careful observation & recording of pupil work #ukedchat @largerama I suspect that with the withdrawal of funding it may be on its way out - it was a bit of a hard sell to begin with... #ukedchat @colport @Ideas_Factory when did assessment become purely objective? We are people and teachers and need to be subjective #ukedchat @OhLottie #ukedchat I tend 2 assume that the previous teacher in my schl was right in their judgement as we have rigorous moderation process @Julian3576 If communication channels are open and accessible. We need to open the school doors a little more? #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory AfL should happen all the time - but when APP self assessment tasks are termly AfL tasks confusion reigns for some #ukedchat @cleverfiend APP can be used formatively or summatively - it's not what they do, it's the way that they do it! #ukedchat #ukedchat I think a problem is that levels etc are so high stakes. If not so much rode on them I think APP etc could be lots more useful.

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@KnikiDavies Exactly - and open to so much interpretation! Allowing chn time to just talk about books is useful though #ukedchat Got to move away from fixed summative assessments #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory @colport one of the key elements of cooperative leanring is individual accountability i.e. children as individuals #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat panel of emminent experts< Why so little hands on finding out in APP which early scientific fascination is based? @DrAshCasey @colport Ahh #ukedchat conundrum-how can we assess pupils in everything? Good point weakness in objective driven APP @KnikiDavies But surely if you're using it to inform your future planning, it's not pointless? #ukedchat @MrKp Absolutely, which is why I try to use technology to help me streamline the process http://bit.ly/8qORcp #ukedchat @DrAshCasey I like 'fuzzy assessment' #ukedchat @Laura_987 #ukedchat I don't think it is pointless at all, I like it, but is hard to convince others of that! RT @Grevster73: @DrAshCasey I like 'fuzzy assessment' #ukedchat @DrAshCasey @Ideas_Factory Assessment became objective with the Nat Curr, I'm afraid. We need to be subjective as teachers tho #ukedchat @cleverfiend #ukedchat Can't see why-APP is objective driven assessment. AfL is helping learning not a record of what's learnt RT @colport: @Julian3576 We need to open the school doors a little more?< can only be a good thing #ukedchat RT @KnikiDavies @OhLottie never assume - I used to assume exam papers were checked before publishing! (sorry keep missing out #ukedchat) @KnikiDavies #ukedchat day-to-day assessment through APP does not have to be highstakes @Julian3576 #ukedchat Agreed-that's the thing about science APP no investigation @KnikiDavies Absolutely. Too many school managers (and parents, it must be said) rely on summative assessment scores #ukedchat @KnikiDavies Sorry didn't mean to include you in the hard to convince bunch. Glad you like it :) #ukedchat @Grevster73 objectivity is a myth. It's the atlantis of assessment (in this case). fuzzy will always be there even when uninvited #ukedchat @Grevster73 #ukedchat But if it is going to replace SATS then it will be @colport @duckinwales @deerwood #ukedchat honestly, APP is easy and robust and the best way to identify level..no other way. @Grevster73 it shouldn't be a choice between teaching and assessing either! #ukedchat @dan_bowen I don't fear APP, It's just huge in Primary Maths. I am trying to streamline and make the process easier for all #ukedchat @dan_bowen Please share any links to #ukedchat though. It will be good to share via the blog. Would it help if you could photo work with your phone, instantly upload to pupils e-portfolio and allow you to select APP marks? #ukedchat @APrimaryNQT I agree but struggle to do this as we plan as a year group #ukedchat Am so pleased to be reading & learning - embedding APP in KS3 English is part of my new role. Am learning lots re. evidence etc #ukedchat @colport #ukedchat nice idea @Colport yeah that's what we did #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat The thing about science APP no investigation< All about applying science in history but no digging for worms... @colport @KnikiDavies oh so true #ukedchat - so easy to fall into the trap of teaching to exams - esp with time/management pressures. @Laura_987 Hee! Yes I think it is really useful. #ukedchat How do you get others to see it as useful not just another hoop? @Ideas_Factory I'm quite familiar with what APP is and what APP isn't http://fcr.me.uk/amL2Pp - I speak only about what I see #ukedchat RT @BryanPlumb: Would it help if you could photo work with your phone, instantly upload to pupils e-portfolio & select APP marks? #ukedchat @colport #ukedchat Using APP in maths is easy-working out level using that daft formula is the pain-try @andreacarr1 rising stars i-progress RT @sellyeve: @Grevster73 it shouldn't be a choice between teaching and assessing either! #ukedchat Edtech20 : Opinions & Discussions on kosmix 2.0 #edtech20 #liveclass20 #elemchat #scichat #ukedchat #web20chat http://icio.us/j3dytv @DeputyHeadDunn I have tweeted a lot in #ukedchat - What did you do? @Julian3576 #ukedchat I thought the science APP is *all* investigation? Right #ukedchat very difficult to detail APP in here but....levelling using wooly descriptions has always been crazy...and misinterpreted.. @cleverfiend #ukedchat Not trying to say otherwise-just can't believe some confuse the two and lose the most important AfL! @Ideas_Factory Using it is easy...I agree. It has been collecting/storing the evidence that has proved a challenge in our school #ukedchat @Colport I'm new here tonight! We integrated some of APP into our progress ladders #ukedchat Okay, new article on bee-it will be looking into APP systems and how they can be improved to make your life as a teacher easier #ukedchat #ukedchat APP grids allow us to state that a childs work is 5low, secure high..5c, 5a with certainty RT @colport: @Ideas_Factory Using it is easy.It has been collecting/storing the evidence that has proved a challenge in our school #ukedchat @duckinwales That is the concern, and I really cannot see things changing either #ukedchat @Colport These are stuck inside children's books and they help assess #ukedchat @KnikiDavies That's a good question. Depends on teachers' outlook. Have to ask, just new gov. policy or is it actually useful? #ukedchat #ukedchat my version of science assessment evidence, better than testing? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0kvFPDFn8 9yo animation. @DeputyHeadDunn hi & welcome! #ukedchat #ukedchat having trained schools with it they have benefited by changing schemes of work...to fit the levels better... @KnikiDavies #ukedchat AF3-5 are classic investigation - AF1&2 are more content/concepts @colport #ukedchat We put little post its in books and review every half term. We have Jigsaws in books so kids colour in every time. @KnikiDavies Agreed science APP can be what you want it to be - be it part investigations, whole investigations, data work or more #ukedchat @sellyeve thanks! #ukedchat #ukedchat problem is poor dissemination by heads of department to their teams leads to inconsistency... @DeputyHeadDunn Good to see you in #ukedchat. You're very welcome. Would love to learn more about progress ladders & APP #ukedchat #ukedchat I work with consultants who have been involved in edu for years and are top of their game and they rate APP for all core subejcts @Ideas_Factory liking the jigsaw idea! #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory You may remember my Elmer APP Writing assessment frame in the summer? #ukedchat RT @KnikiDavies: #ukedchat I thought science APP is all investigation?< Just wording does not reflect that at an early age, maybe just me??? #ukedchat @colport - to be honest, with the new £ pressures I see it getting worse : ( @colport #ukedchat Didn't I email those jigsaws to you? APP based would help @duckinwales @KnikiDavies #ukedchat I hear you, but I think rigorous + joint moderation between year groups can help :) RT @Ideas_Factory: @colport #ukedchat We put little post its in books and review every half term. We have Jigsaws in books so kids colour in ever @Colport OSTED (didn't mean to swear) loved progress ladders #ukedchat @colport #ukedchat I thought so-that Elmer was inspired but are you using it? Yes, and I amended them to Elmer :-) #ukedchat Wasted a few hours playing with them! #ukedchat right thats me off my soapbox but I feel passionaltely about APP and happy to help anyone understand it.. @OhLotiie I agree totally #ukedchat @sellyeve #ukedchat Have got for every level in writing and Maths. Also APP ICT for levels 1-5 #ukedchat //by the way APP cannot be done in Excel, should not be done for everyone and is periodic..so you cant APP one piece of work @Colport Will happily share what we do with you #ukedchat @DeputyHeadDunn Can you link to a blog posting, or example of your progress ladders? #ukedchat @Ideas_Factory sounds great! Have you a link at all? #ukedchat Wow, look at the time. Moving the conversation along...Could APP principles be used within other subject areas? #ukedchat RT @dan_bowen: #ukedchat I work with consultants who have been involved in edu for years and are top of their game and they rate APP for all co

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@dan_bowen Can you explain/elaborate on last tweet for a novice? ;) #ukedchat @cleverfiend AfL should inform the kids so they can improve grades, but not only done with APP #ukedchat anyone seen super stickers APP target setting stickers? http://is.gd/fQ6en any opinions? #ukedchat @dan_bowen can see you're an enthusiast - but...do you think it's doable for all those subjects? #ukedchat @DeputyHeadDunn Please mind your language in #ukedchat ;-) - We love our inspectors! LOL @Colport...not yet, just setting blog up, but can chat/email? #ukedchat @dan_bowen #ukedchat is there a common understanding of APP? @Ideas_Factory Ah, no> The literacy team were not *ready* for APP writing - They are stuck with Ros Wilson! #ukedchat @colport #ukedchat I'd be interested to see how it could. We are racking our brains trying to think of how to assess foundation subjects! Could be & should be consistency of approach for kids & parents. RT @colport: Could APP be used within other subject areas? #ukedchat @colport The APP guidelines exist for foundation subjects at KS3 - new government has no intention of releasing them!! #ukedchat @KnikiDavies we use progress ladders for all our subjects #ukedchat @Colport sorry about the swearing :) #ukedchat @sellyeve: @dan_bowen ... do you think it's doable for all subjects?
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@mberry I think one driver behind APP was to encourage quality AfL in the classroom but I agree many think AfL=APP #ukedchat @sellyeve #ukedchat When we checked to see if students could meet APP guidelines there were gaps - we then adapted SOWs - much improved! @Arakwai #ukedchat not a Geek - I love proper Blooms! RT @cleverfiend: @mberry I think 1 driver behind APP was to encourage quality AfL in the classroom but I agree many think AfL=APP #ukedchat we should take account of all sources of assessment info in planning to meet children's needs #ukedchat @dan_bowen Had that problem last week. Try TweetDeck. Much easier! #ukedchat @dan_bowen the L is so, so much more important than the A #ukedchat Too true "@DrAshCasey: @Ideas_Factory @colport it may be 'a way' but I am sceptical of anything that is branded as 'the way' #ukedchat" :) @cleverfiend Absolutely agree. I think the CPD got confused #ukedchat @DanielHugill interesting! #ukedchat RT @sellyeve: we should take account of all sources of assessment info in planning to meet children's needs #ukedchat RT @sellyeve: we should take account of all sources of assessment info in planning to meet children's needs #ukedchat @dan_bowen Shouldnt APP be a type of AfL? #ukedchat We used APP level descriptors to help chn self assess their work in Science investigators #ukedchat @sellyeve #ukedchat For example at higher levels we has overlooked parts of level descriptors and this focused our mind (and planning) @iteachyear4 we use 'child-speak' #ukedchat @mberry #ukedchat But you can't have good L without the A! @mberry: @dan_bowen the L is so, so much more important than the A< A can enhance L, no other reason is really worth while #ukedchat @cleverfiend @mberry I kind of see APP as an important/useful tool within AfL - does that sound right? #ukedchat (with hashtag!) @DanielHugill having said that, I don't think you can beat having a look at the NC level descriptors-all assess derives from these #ukedchat #ukedchat Issue that many face is the frequent reporting required by SLT vs. a holistic APP judgment after a longer period. How to solve? @Grevster73 you have evidence for this? I'd be willing to concede that good T is dependent on good A, but L can happen without T. #ukedchat loving #ukedchat but have to go or I wont get any work done.....see you all, much love Dan x @dan_bowen But APP statements could be something used everyday to inform teachers and students where they are heading next. #ukedchat RT @DanielHugill: #ukedchat Issue that many face is the frequent reporting required by SLT vs. a holistic APP judgment after a longer period @sellyeve I find it interesting that the Nat Strat didn't write child friendly statements on purpose - how did they envision AfL? #ukedchat I fear that summative assessments will remain the focus for leaders as scores are published. APP will remain the poor relative #ukedchat @cleverfiend Nat Strat was for teachers #ukedchat RT @Arakwai: @cleverfiend @mberry I kind of see APP as an important/useful tool within AfL - does that sound right? #ukedchat <-agree @sellyeve We used the Badger descriptors which are pretty much child speak #ukedchat RT @colport: I fear that summative assessments will remain the focus for leaders as scores are published. APP will remain the poor relative #ukedc @iteachyear4 haven't seen those... #ukedchat Until teacher's assessment carries more weight, summative scores will unfortunately count more #ukedchat @DeputyHeadDunn #ukedchat great thanks I know @janwebb21 is developing an IPhone app to support APP - will be even better with new iPod Touches with cameras :-) #ukedchat @mberry #ukedchat Black & William (1999), Bell & Cowie (2001), Naylor & Keogh and my recent doctorate to name but a few... @Crosbiei if it's a useful tool for teachers in the classroom then in some form it'll survive - that's the acid test #ukedchat RT @colport: I fear that summative assessments will remain the focus for leaders as scores are published. APP will remain the poor relative #ukedc RT @DeputyHeadDunn: Until teacher's assessment carries more weight, summative scores will unfortunately count more #ukedchat @Arakwai perhaps '... one useful tool ...' but it looks like something invented by people who don't actually teach (says he) #ukedchat @sellyeve Get in touch with @Grevster73 - he can point you in the right direction, although they are only KS3......for now? #ukedchat It's 9:00 - Another #ukedchat draws to an end. The archive process will start at 9.15. Thank you for your contributions. RT @colport: I know @janwebb21 is developing an IPhone app to support APP - will be even better with new iPod Touches with cameras :-) #ukedc @DeputyHeadDunn #ukedchat there needs to be a culture change in schools Have enjoyed my first eve here, thanks all! #ukedchat @cleverfiend: @sellyeve < classic quote 'but if everyone could understand, then where does that leave the teaching profession' #ukedchat RT @Grevster73: RT @DeputyHeadDunn: Until teacher's assessment carries more weight, summative scores will unfortunately count more #ukedc RT @DeputyHeadDunn:Until teacher's assessment carries more weight, summative scores will unfortunately count more #ukedchat > crazy but true Last few mins of #ukedchat, so going to squeeze in a blatant plug 4 #tmhhs - this Wed in Holywell all welcome http://www.teachmeet.org.uk/ Thank you for your contributions to #ukedchat - Plenty to think about, and plenty of ideas shared. A great session. Thank you @iteachyear4 thanks! #ukedchat RT @mberry AfL: the L is so, so much more important than the A #ukedchat [will definitely quote you on that Miles!] The #ukedchat blog (summaries of previous sessions) at http://ukedchat.wordpress.com/ RT @duckinwales: Last few mins of #ukedchat, so going to squeeze in a blatant plug 4 #tmhhs - this Wed in Holywell all welcome http://www.teachm Really looking fwd to archive -some great ideas/links tonight. Thanks folks for being ace professionals! Always useful & inspiring #ukedchat thanks everyone - good chat. Many thanks to colport for moderating too! #ukedchat RT @Ideas_Factory:#ukedchat APP maths is easy-working out level is pain-try @andreacarr1 i-progress > free for a term if that helps anyone. @sellyeve I agree. But isnt it currently just more paperwork for teachers to complete? #ukedchat The #ukedchat Facebook page is at http://on.fb.me/9k7Z1u - Click 'Like' to receive updates #ukedchat Thanks all! Great stuff to think about!. APP will hopefully hang around long enough for us to try use! @Crosbiei sure is paperwork! #ukedchat RT @DanielHugill: #ukedchat APP will hopefully hang around long enough for us to use!< and develop into something useful before all change! @TomSale Ah, but the iPad version is £1.79 - I'd have to buy all staff iPads ;-) #ukedchat @DanielHugill But wheels are so much better when reinvented ;-) #ukedchat @Grevster73 I'd need to check the sources, but don't these indicate that better A can/does improve L (as measured by A) #ukedchat @spookingdorf @dan_bowen TfL or tFL? Make mine a student Oyster card. #ukedchat @colport sorry that I missed #ukedchat Got stuck with footy and pumping up 3 child pram tyres...harder than it sounds! RT @ChrisPadden: We made an assessment framework for the Welsh: APP for Wales :) http://bit.ly/WelshAPP Used by 10% of Welsh schools at la The #ukedchat archive process has started. #ukedchat I think if U find APP useful then use it It will not stp external assessment but cn help in informing wht U do nxt w/ yr children @primarypete_ I just started using evernote on the iPad and my other computers and am loving it. Nice to have it all all the time #ukedchat #ukedchat Help! Any of you in SLT/Govs in Federations? Looking at LA systems/support which is good/barrier to fed develoment. DM pls. Ta RT @Orlama: #ukedchat I think if U find APP useful then use it It will not stp external assessment but cn help in informing wht U do nxt w/ yr childre RT @OhLottie: I like this idea a lot! RT @colport I am trying to use GoogleForms/Spreadsheet to store data #ukedchat http://bit.ly/8qORcp @duckinwales #ukedchat as long as the criteria is not how many pupils I "lose" while in Rome! OffiSync - MS Office & Google Apps integration http://bit.ly/c02fiE #gapps #gct #gtauk #edtech #ukedchat #edchat #elearning