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Review "Early Christianity was a revolution that swept through the ancient world like fire through dry timber," challenging traditional customs and institutions. The author contends that the early Church's stance toward society should concern us deeply, as we face many similar burning issues: divorce, abortion, entertainment, war, economic injustice, and the role of men/women. Bercot, who is also a lawyer, takes the reader on a very stimulating journey in which we meet Polycarp (who was personally discipled by the apostle John) and other second-century witnesses. -- The Plough, April, 1990 Perhaps the single most important thing the book did for me was to introduce me in an unforgettable way to the early Christian writings. ...However, the author, David Bercot, does more than introduce the reader to the early Christians and their writings he advances a powerful and persuasive argument as to why we should take the early Christians and their writings seriously. This argument is basically similar to saying that the further upstream you go, the purer the waters should be. He makes a convincing case that these early Christian writers were in the best possible position to interpret and understand what the inspired writers had in mind when they wrote the New Testament. After all, some of these early Christian leaders were co-workers with the apostles and knew them personally. It is logical that they had a real advantage over us who read the Bible after nearly 2,000 years. -- Family Life, October, 1989 To say this book packs a jolt is an understatement. Bercot doesn't point fingers; he just tells it like it is, and no book other than Snyder's The Problem of Wineskins has affected my thinking of the church more than this one. This book has my highest recommendations. -- The Obligator, August, 1989
We've heard it all before. The church's decline began when Constantine named Christianity the religion of the Roman Empire. David Bercot recounts all this and more. He is deeply concerned with the church's lack of spirituality. He is upset that the church has adopted worldly standards of success rapid growth and wealth. He is right in feeling and expressing these concerns. And he expresses them well. -- Bookstore Journal, November, 1989 From the Back Cover Sex and money scandals. An exploding divorce ate. Drug-addicted youths. And an ever-growing worldliness. Today's church is fighting battles on all fronts. And we seem to be losing these battles to the relentlessly encroaching world. Perhaps the answers to our problems are not in the present, but in the past. Because there was a time when the church was able to stand up to the world. The author takes you on an engrossing journey back to that time back to the beginning of the second century. Here is an inspiring account of what Christians believed and practiced at the close of the age of the apostles and how the church eventually lost the Christianity of that time. But this is not primarily a history book. It's a fresh, creative look at the problems facing the church today and the solution to those problems. It's a call for today's church to return to the simple holiness, unfailing love, and patient cross-bearing of the early Christians. Will The Real Heretics Please Stand Up combines sound scholarship with a free-flowing, readable style designed for contemporary laypersons. If you're looking for superficial solutions to today's problems or a restatement of traditional answers, you will need to look elsewhere. This provocative book confronts traditional answers and challenges you to a deeper walk with God the walk of the early Christians. About the Author A former attorney and Anglican priest, David Bercot has made early Christianity his special field of study for the past fifteen years. His primary mission is to make the average layperson aware of the early Christians what they believed and how they lived. A member of the North American Patristics Society, Bercot is also the editor of A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs.
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Sales Rank: #75829 in Books Brand: Bercot, David W. Model: 1055928 Published on: 1989-12 Original language: English Number of items: 1 Dimensions: .48" h x 5.57" w x 8.47" l, .55 pounds Binding: Paperback 190 pages
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Review "Early Christianity was a revolution that swept through the ancient world like fire through dry timber," challenging traditional customs and institutions. The author contends that the early Church's stance toward society should concern us deeply, as we face many similar burning issues: divorce, abortion, entertainment, war, economic injustice, and the role of men/women. Bercot, who is also a lawyer, takes the reader on a very stimulating journey in which we meet Polycarp (who was personally discipled by the apostle John) and other second-century witnesses. -- The Plough, April, 1990 Perhaps the single most important thing the book did for me was to introduce me in an unforgettable way to the early Christian writings. ...However, the author, David Bercot, does more than introduce the reader to the early Christians and their writings he advances a powerful and persuasive argument as to why we should take the early Christians and their writings seriously. This argument is basically similar to saying that the further upstream you go, the purer the waters should be. He makes a convincing case that these early Christian writers were in the best possible position to interpret and understand what the inspired writers had in mind when they wrote the New Testament. After all, some of these early Christian leaders were co-workers with the apostles and knew them personally. It is logical that they had a real advantage over us who read the Bible after nearly 2,000 years. -- Family Life, October, 1989 To say this book packs a jolt is an understatement. Bercot doesn't point fingers; he just tells it like it is, and no book other than Snyder's The Problem of Wineskins has affected my thinking of the
church more than this one. This book has my highest recommendations. -- The Obligator, August, 1989 We've heard it all before. The church's decline began when Constantine named Christianity the religion of the Roman Empire. David Bercot recounts all this and more. He is deeply concerned with the church's lack of spirituality. He is upset that the church has adopted worldly standards of success rapid growth and wealth. He is right in feeling and expressing these concerns. And he expresses them well. -- Bookstore Journal, November, 1989 From the Back Cover Sex and money scandals. An exploding divorce ate. Drug-addicted youths. And an ever-growing worldliness. Today's church is fighting battles on all fronts. And we seem to be losing these battles to the relentlessly encroaching world. Perhaps the answers to our problems are not in the present, but in the past. Because there was a time when the church was able to stand up to the world. The author takes you on an engrossing journey back to that time back to the beginning of the second century. Here is an inspiring account of what Christians believed and practiced at the close of the age of the apostles and how the church eventually lost the Christianity of that time. But this is not primarily a history book. It's a fresh, creative look at the problems facing the church today and the solution to those problems. It's a call for today's church to return to the simple holiness, unfailing love, and patient cross-bearing of the early Christians. Will The Real Heretics Please Stand Up combines sound scholarship with a free-flowing, readable style designed for contemporary laypersons. If you're looking for superficial solutions to today's problems or a restatement of traditional answers, you will need to look elsewhere. This provocative book confronts traditional answers and challenges you to a deeper walk with God the walk of the early Christians. About the Author A former attorney and Anglican priest, David Bercot has made early Christianity his special field of study for the past fifteen years. His primary mission is to make the average layperson aware of the early Christians what they believed and how they lived. A member of the North American Patristics Society, Bercot is also the editor of A Dictionary of Early Christian Beliefs. Most helpful customer reviews 15 of 18 people found the following review helpful. Let's let the Saints Who Went Before speak to us. By Jedidiah Carosaari There were parts of this book I really liked. There were parts I didn’t. And there were parts I didn’t like but they were really good- I just didn’t like having to rethink my ideas. Growing up in a Jesus People commune, the Highway Missionaries, I am a staunch primitivist- I believe that what the early church believed, we should also. The Bible is important primarily as a record of the beliefs of the early Church. Bercot’s arguments therefore struck a resonating chord with me. I appreciated Bercot’s wide use of key Patristic Fathers to demonstrate his ideas, and many of the issues he addresses are key ones for that day and ours. He takes us through a historical understanding of the beliefs of the early Christians, why they believed what they did, and why we lost our original zeal, only to become further lost in the reformation. Strong words which don’t seem supportable, until you read through the text. So we see how baptism was originally a symbol of a deeper process- not just a representation, but a true symbol that takes part in that
which is symbolized. And as the church became authorized by the state, it lost it’s original purity of poverty and persecution, seeing instead the glory of God in prosperity and protection. This only increased under Luther. And again in the modern American church. His arguments, or rather the Patristic’s arguments, for soteriology being from the action of God and humanity were very sound. I had earlier come to believe that the salvation process of Christ was not quite the same as Paul’s. Or rather, the common interpretation of Paul’s. As I read what Jesus said, and looked at early church leaders, I was impressed suddenly that it is not true that we are saved by faith alone. Nor is it true that we are saved by works. But rather, it seemed the message of Jesus was “by change alone”- not sola fideo but sola morphe. We must allow the old woman or man to die, and the new one to take it’s place. This involves a whole lot of faith and a good measure of works. Bercot does a successful job of exploring this. I would wish his treatment of warfare were more expanded. But it is beautiful to see how the early Christians tied abortion, capitol punishment, and warfare together. They just didn’t like people dying. ... And there were aspects I wish I hadn’t read. As a strong predestinationist, I really didn’t like reading that the early Christians supported free will. It always feels like a bit of a death when one must give up some of one’s cherished beliefs. I had to modify some of my thinking on this, and accept arminianism to a greater extent. I think now that both predestination and arminianism must be true, and that God chooses to change us when we choose to change as much as we change when God so chooses. But there were aspects of Bercot’s work that could have been done better, I believe. In his section on free will, he doesn’t quote enough from Patristic authors actually discussing Romans and other key scriptural texts. And the texts he does quote finally lead me to understand that what the early authors were arguing against was Fate- not Predestination. Against the idea, common at the time and within Islam today, that God determined my actions, therefore I am not responsible. They were not arguing against the idea as expressed by Paul, that despite God’s election, we are still responsible. Those arguments were to occur later in history. I believe here Bercot uses the Church Fathers to prove ideas that had not yet developed. Likewise I find fault in those issues that I have studied in more detail. On evolution, there were those in the early church who argued against the use of the Bible to prove scientific origin ideas, as it misused the text and made a mockery of believers. (see St. Augustine : The Literal Meaning of Genesis, Vol. 1 (Ancient Christian Writers, No. 41)) In general, the early church did not see the importance of interpreting certain texts literally. Indeed, the sources he cites do not actually address issues of evolution. I know from numerous sources that the early church had a wide practice of women in leadership. His sources he cites again do not deny this. In fact at one point he attempts to show that Tertullian did not support women in leadership. Yet Tertullian simply describes a heretical group (without disparagement), and Bercot then mentions the Montanists as being lead by women, yet earlier he had stated that Tertullian joined this same group! Finally I must strongly disagree with his ideas that signs and wonders weren’t widely practiced in the primitive church. Again, numerous sources show otherwise, especially in the first 2 centuries. I believe this is the largest chapter missing from Bercot’s work- something heavily practiced in the first few centuries, and in the 2/3rds world church, yet hardly at all any longer in the West. ... But I nit-pick; these disagreements are minor within the entire work. Bercot has written a great rallying cry for the Church to return to her true roots. It is time that we again look at those saints who went before, and let them speak to us. 4 of 6 people found the following review helpful. Very Engrossing First Half, But Spotty in Places
By Edgar Foster David Bercot has written a book that grabs your attention from the start and make Christians of any bent ask how their life compares with the non-Christian world. Bercot discusses early Christian views of entertainment and war. He concludes that the early Christians would have never approved of many movies that are produced today nor would they have gone to war to fight for their country, though it appears that some early believers did remain in the army after baptism, but evidently refused to take up arms against enemy nations. One weakness to Bercot's book, however, is that his arguments are condensed and he sometimes fail to examine the context of a given utterance made by a certain church father. Thus, he does not discern that the idolatrous nature of the Roman army also played a part in early Christian pacifism as well as the way Christians exegeted Isa 2:14. All in all, Bercot's book is a nice read. Just don't depend on it for serious historical analyses or in-depth and rigorous documented accounts. 3 of 5 people found the following review helpful. Best Book I've Read in 2 years. A good primer for all of us to read on what it really meant to be a Christian before 250 A.D. By E. Bales For those of us who think our own religion is the "true church" and none other, this book will really give you an eye opening experience as to what it meant to be a genuine Christian before about 350 A.D. There is no theology presented in this book, because at the time the Christian church began, after the death of Christ, there were no division of beliefs for all were of one faith, one baptism and one flock. The original faith of Christ was held together with no internal schisms for 300 years. It was a time of true suffering to be a Christian, suffering to the point of having a hot iron put on the bottom of your feet and other atrocities too horrible to mention. Something people in the U.S.A. in modern times have not had to deal with, for we can all worship as we please. It shows how all religions that exist today (24,000 roughly since the Reformation period of about 1550 A.D. do not entirely follow the true teachings of Christ as much as we think we do). Before Christianity was accepted as a religion by Constantine, and the Milan Edict was issued, no one accept true believers in God wanted to became a Christian, because being a Christian meant suffering and truly carrying your cross to bear and was no accepted by society, as Jesus so often mentioned in the gospels. It wasn't until Constantine came into power that it became popular to belong to the church, where the church began to have some presence in that the converted emperor built lavish and beautiful cathedrals throughout the land, as well as, had scribes make beautiful bibles for all to read, that began to attract the masses to join the church. Prior to this time, Christians gave all their money to poor and lived in poverty and sometimes starvation for the good of the whole community. How many of us today can really say we have given our all to help the poor? I know myself, I cannot truly say that I have concentrated on the needs of our poor, but I know now I am going to pay more attention to this area of my life and become truly giving to those in need. After reading this book, no longer will I judge others for their beliefs erroneously thinking that my religion is the true church, because as Jesus said, "all of us have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". This book will open your eyes and let you really see the truth from God's point of view, free from theology biases and just plain make you aware. I cannot give this book a higher rating than 5 stars, but if I could I would give it a 10 star. It is the best book I've read in 2 years. It was so good, that I didn't go to bed the night I bought it, until 5:00 a.m., until I finished it completely.
If you are one of those people that have made up their minds and do not want to change their minds about their beliefs, then this is not the book for you. If you are a seeker of truth, wisdom and God's enlightenment through the Holy Spirit, this book will make you radiate with sincere love for your fellow man and put a smile on your face from ear to ear. Read it if you dare. See all 97 customer reviews...
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