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#edchat I did a little action research w/tchrs & found the group with assigned hmwrk scored MUCH worse on the assessment. @mbteach even more ironic that we learned how "useless" homework generally is #edchat DISCLAIMER TO MY FOLLOWERS: be prepared for an hour of endless tweeting from me for tonight's #edchat His lates book, The Homework Myth, Mr. Kohn systematically examines the usual defenses of homework #edchat RT @mbteach: It is pretty ironic that we all did homework for the homework #edchat! typical teacher behaviour! RT @tomwhitby: PLN Remember all comments MUST be hashtagged #edchat RT @web20classroom: This weeks topic: Does home work raise attainment? #edchat @blairteach That's very interesting! #edchat I'm searching for #edchat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23edchat Mr. Kohn also have several other books, which you can evaluate on his website...http://is.gd/2yweW #edchat RT @blairteach: #edchat I did a little action research w/tchrs & found the group with assigned hmwrk scored MUCH worse on the assessment. RT @web20classroom: Alfie Kohn writes and speaks widely on human behavior, education, and parenting. #edchat RT @web20classroom: This week we will have a special guest, Alfie Kohn #edchat This worked well last time! -- I'm searching for #edchat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23edchat @web20classroom I'm a big fan of Punished by Rewards and Beyond Discipline #edchat Almost didn’t make it. Using hashtag #idchat, not #edchat. Great convers re primitive urges until I realized no one was talking about h’work At this time I would like to welcome Mr. Alfie Kohn to #edchat Normally you can follow him on Twitter, @alfiekohn, but tonight he will be Tweeting from @akohn09 #edchat PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join RT @ShellTerrell: PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join You can also add a search column for #edchat to TweetDeck Activity I use in wkshops: speculate about WHY that might be true, even if you find the result surprising or unsettling #edchat Can’t just say “Well, *I* happen to think HW is effective if done thoughtfully.†A reasonable hypoth, but data just don’t support it #edchat i don't particularly like giving out much homework, but parents and administrators get mad when I don't. #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join RT @web20classroom: Normally you can follow him on Twitter, @alfiekohn, but tonight he will be Tweeting from @akohn09 #edchat We should start by gathering a consensus on the definition of "homework" #edchat Welcome! RT @web20classroom: At this time I would like to welcome Mr. Alfie Kohn to #edchat @RussGoerend second need for common definition, is HW anything done out of school? anything done independently? #edchat Can't be sure who is actually doing the work? #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join @RussGoerend that would be a good start, that way we are all talking about the same thing #edchat Greetings #edchat I only assign millenium tasks ie watch Food Network looking for ideas, listen to music for use in labs. It's "The Way it's Always Been Done," so ingrained into classroom culture many places #edchat RT @alfiekohn: For #edchat, I've just posted a chap. from The Homework Myth on achievement researrch - http://bit.ly/59HAq RT @dancallahan: i don't particularly like giving out much homework, but parents and administrators get mad when I don't. #edchat RT @ShellTerrell I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join RT @web20classroom: RT @ShellTerrell: PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join son's top tchr @ hi sch never set *conventional* homework (ended up being 1 of top grades) - instead set tasks that made stdts think #edchat There is pressure to daily update the homework section of school websites #edchat Welcome @akohn09 #edchat What about the 10,000 hours needed to be expert? Homework could be part of those hours. #edchat #edchat Are kids doing homework "mechanically?" Following steps without thinking? Sometimes! @akohn09 How do you feel about Web 2.0 tools if stdts not required to participate? #edchat AGREE RT @webenglishteach Can't be sure who is actually doing the work? #edchat homework defined as any extra-classroom work done to support learning topics being covered in school #edchat I didn't really get the problem with homework until I became a parent...too much unnecessary crying...and for what? #edchat RT @akohn09: Any academic work done outside of class seems like workable definition to me #edchat #edchat there is pressure to keep kids busy in "study halls" so others can go to band... hw is mandatory in some districts #edchat Is homework used to teach or is it used because it is somthing we have always done in education #edchat Is there a difference between that which is assigned by a teacher and that which a student undertakes independently? #edchat Merriam-Webster def "an assignment given to a student to be completed outside the regular class period" #edchat real HS Eng. honors class assignment: write the names of characters in the play Romeo & Juliet. #edchat RT @mbteach: RT @alfiekohn: For #edchat, I've just posted a chap. from The Homework Myth on achievement researrch - http://bit.ly/59HAq #edchat is ineffectiveness of homework related to lack of completion, poor design, or something else? @akohn09 don't forget to include the # on the hashtag or it won't get caught by searches. #edchat @aldtucker RT @blairteach: IME, students who do homework progress more. Pehaps it depends on type of homework you set? #edchat @MaryKayG difference in motivation #edchat @rjwassink but do these hw tasks *always* support learning? #edchat @rjwassink but do these hw tasks *always* support lerning? #edchat @web20classroom Parents memories of their own education include homework...something that has always been done #edchat homework strengthens the mind seems to be one rationale for hw #edchat I've ran into this prob at former school! RT @tearoof: hw is mandatory in some districts #edchat My senior instructor when I was novice tchr told me all stdts should have 2 hrs hmwk a day, I cringed #edchat RT @edutopia: RT @BelieveKids RT @web20classroom @rjwassink How 2 expose more teachers to Twitter and how to use #edchat http://tech70a.com RT @mbteach: You can also add a search column for #edchat to TweetDeck and seesmic as well RT @web20classroom: Is homework used to teach or is it used because it is somthing we have always done in education #edchat Some HW clearly better than other kinds, but real ques is why we require kids to work a 2nd shift after spending all day in schl #edchat Son refused to do it. Wrote note explaining that cast lists are given at the front of every play. Teacher gave him a 0 for the day #edchat Very Sad! RT @spedteacher: real HS Eng. honors class assignment: write the names of characters in the play Romeo & Juliet. #edchat @akohn09 I think you are right, students are having to work much too hard outside of school #edchat @Janshs if not, then why is it being assigned? #edchat @tearoof Difference in effectiveness as well, I believe #edchat Are we including reading as homework? Or just the responses to the readings? #edchat Homework is used to reinforce what is taught in class, especially in math #edchat Hw can probably be effective if the lessons were taught well, so that students can apply what they learned to the homework problems #edchat I like Merriam-Webster's definition better than "any academic work done outside class" #edchat My 'homework' was usually to finish any unfinished classwork, if really necessary, and then have parents support students #edchat

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RT @akohn09: Some HW clearly better than others, but real ? why we require kids to work 2nd shift after spending all day in schl #edchat That is why I don't believe in homework. #edchat What is the opinion here? If you could would you get no hw? Never ever? #edchat @akohn09 I find there's an atmosphere of competition-- other schools, then they need it for hs, then college, other countries, etc. #edchat @akohn09 Why do you cast school and homework in labor market terms? Second shift? #edchat @lbott What does it mean to "reinforce"? Only behavior can be reinf'ed, not understanding #edchat Being prepared for the next day's lessons should be routine. Completing an hour+ of hw (for the sake of completing hw) should not be #edchat I know Seniors heading back to school today who have mountains of work and for what? #edchat Joining a bit late here: Compared to India, kids don't get too much HW here :) #edchat low level classes: complete 1-35, odds. "upper level"classes: complete 1 - 35 all #edchat My question is does actual learning take place when completing homework? #edchat @lbott I agree with you. HW is for reinforcing and I also like assignements that prepare a student for the next lesson #edchat @MaryKayG You have nailed it. #edchat @web20classroom isn't #edchat work outside of school?? We're enjoying this...does that make it too hard? But don't you all think that homework is helpful for retaining knowledge and concepts that was learned in class (esp. math)? #edchat I didn't do a single homework assignment from 7th grade through senior year - still scored very high on all tests. I didn't need it #edchat I told my students "you will get no assignments from me saying: I own a half hour of your time every night." #edchat It looks to me like the research does show limited evidence that supports limited homework #edchat RT @leewin: @web20classroom it is something we have always done and what has always been expected. A tradition we must rethink. #edchat RT @web20classroom: RT @ShellTerrell: PLN I will be tweeting for next 2hrs on #edchat with special guest Alfie Kohn plz join (via @jkdham) @akohn09 I agree...if all teachers gave 1 hour for 1 hour of class...students run out of time for sleep, and to just be kids #edchat @granderedeye Very scientific way to separate the haves and have nots. ha ha #edchat @Preppa Evidence says no. But bigger questn is why so much teaching is about memorizing, not thinking. #edchat Good Point RT@Twilliamson15 @web20classroom isn't #edchat work outside of school?? We're enjoying this...does that make it too hard? Homework can have non-academic benefits such as building positive work habits, self control etc #edchat I also refused to do homework starting in 7th grade. I didn't need reinforcing. #edchat I teach adults now in 1 1/2 courses & I do encourage them to use web2.0 tools to review class concepts #edchat R @lbott Homework is used to reinforce what is taught in class, especially in math #edchat RT @lbott Homework is used to reinforce what is taught in class, especially in math #edchat RT @marciamarcia: Just learned #edchat tonight, 7-9 PM EST, features guest @alfiekohn on Homework. Should be educational! thx @ShellTerrell RT @Twilliamson15: @web20classroom isn't #edchat work outside of school?? We're enjoying this...does that make it too hard? RT JenAnsbach: Are we including reading as homework? Or just the responses to the readings? Is rdng lit circle chpt, writing story? #edchat RT@ShellTerrell RE: 2 hrs hmwk a day #edchat MJ: Thoughts about 2 hours of quiet time in 15 minute chunks to read/write/make during the day? . @rjwassink @web20classroom my worry is that the tasks are often trivial & dare I say maybe worthless therefore? #edchat @esolcourses How does it reinforce if the feedback is not immediate? #edchat @esolcourses So if it is used to reinforce outside of class, how many questions does it take? 5, 10, 100? #edchat @marynabadenhors did u find that kind of homework helpful? #edchat @rjwassink but not everyone may be that brilliant and retain all that knowledge -- homework can help to practice those concepts. #edchat @web20classroom what about refl. blog posts for stdnts? or conversing with a classroom network? Would that lead to actual learning? #edchat @wizdommy This was next chap. of my book. No evidence supports the folks wisdom that HW has nonacad benefits. None. #edchat @wizdommy Then homework should focus on habits of mind, etc...not on 50 fill-in-the-blank questions. #edchat Are there subject areas where HW is more essential in helping extend the learning process? #edchat RT @Wizdommy: Homework can have non-academic benefits such as building positive work habits, self control etc #edchat So true! This is a good ? I believe teachers should facilitate, not lecture & dictate stdts be robots #edchat #edchat I really think "homework" issues largely come from poorly designed, limited focus assignments... @akohn09 How do you mean evidence? #edchat @cmt1 Tasks such as reading some of the newspaper @ night better prepare students for making connections in class discussions #edchat @lbott I teach ESL, & use homework to reinforce what is taught in class, also, via interactive, online exercises #edchat @Twilliamson15 I think you are right...there needs to be meaning but that is open to interpretation... #edchat Homework is rote/drillnkill assigned *only* to be done outside of class. That is a waste of everyone's time. #edchat Homework needs to be engaging: hence my kids do virtual homework each week to help learning. Homework is not a lot of fun #edchat I'm going remember this-brilliant RT @spedteacher I also refused to do homework starting in 7th grade. I didn't need reinforcing. #edchat Maybe just talking high school here: what percent should homework be of total grade? #edchat Reinforcemt is tipoff that we're still trapped in behaviorist paradigm. #edchat #edchat - homework can be a great way to differentiate and challenge, but can also be a huge waste, depending on how you do it. #edchat question about # of problems, etc is a real issue...can we let kids decide how many they need for understanding? All kids? @akohn09 what word would u use in place of reinforcement? #edchat @MaryKayG Yes. It should. #edchat Access Alfie Kohn's bks & more info on Homework theory here http://www.alfiekohn.org/bio.htm #edchat One size does not fit all. #edchat RT @akohn09: "Reinforcemt" is tipoff that we're still trapped in behaviorist paradigm. #edchat RT @web20classroom: My question is does actual learning take place when completing homework? #edchat actual learning or practising skills? Should homework not be differentiated, just as tasks within our classrooms are??? #edchat Very interesting edchat debate regarding homework. I have yet to hear anything regarding educational games: www.gameclassroom.com #edchat #edchat - I like the Chemistry teacher in CO who videod his lessons. They watched it for homework, then did the work in class together @MaryKayG I AGREE! Some student need homework, while others are fine with practice in class. One size definitely doesn't fit all! #edchat @MaryKayG I think web 2.0 tools like Wikis, Glogster, Voicethread good for this #edchat @MaryKayG My music students have to practice instr playing outside of the classroom. #edchat @RussGoerend Well, I memorized multiplication tables at school. I still recall them after 15 years. It helped me with mental math #edchat @Twilliamson15 I like that... #edchat All Hmwk is busy wk if tchrs do not give it worth. Check it correct it & count it. They do not for the most part. #edchat How can students master math concepts without time to practice and apply? #edchat hw 4 developing gd study habits yes I agree with that @NMHS_Principal @Wizdommy #edchat I thought I had heard that after 5-10 "problems" if students don't get it they weren't going to get it... #edchat I would not give homework! However, my school requires me to. (But parents don't require the kids to finish it!) #edchat If a kid doesn't get a concept, doesn't practicing it just reinforce the lack of comprehension? #edchat RT @MaryKayG: One size does not fit all. #edchat True! RT @ShellTerrell: Access Alfie Kohn's bks & more info on Homework theory here http://www.alfiekohn.org/bio.htm #edchat RT@melhutchShouldn't we focus on improving thelearning in schools- only then can we find authentic homework that is worth the time #edchat Shouldn't we focus on improving the learning in schools- only then can we find authentic homework that is worth the time #edchat Why give homework to student who know how to do it? Repetition for the sake of repetition is a waste of time. #edchat YES! RT @MaryKayG: Should homework not be differentiated, just as tasks within our classrooms are??? #edchat @akohn09 If the 4.5 actual instructional hours of school is insufficient, can homework be regarded as "second shift"? #edchat @cmt1 But does that help students who can't already play? I don't know the answer... #edchat @lbott Students who haven't mastered should attain that mastery on their own outside of class? #edchat @melhutch Good point! #edchat @teachtech #edchat love that idea as well...would love to work that into my class at times as well I didn't assign hw for hs math. Just said practice 'till you feel you get it. Had in-class quizzes (basic) instead of checking hw. #edchat If we are to continue with hw how should it be structured? #edchat It not quantity, but quality, need, and focus. No place for "tradition" anymore. #edchat RT @eduinnovation: Why give homework to student who know how to do it? Repetition for the sake of repetition is a waste of time. #edchat RT @melhutch: Shouldn't we focus on improving the learning in schools- only then can we find authentic hmwk that is worth the time #edchat RT @spedteacher: If a kid doesn't get a concept, doesn't practicing it just reinforce the lack of comprehension? #edchat

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so if homework was simply "practice", how couldn't it somehow improve learning? I practiced my trumpet and got better (as a child) #edchat #edchat is there a difference between practice and homework? Music, languages need practice.... @coachburk They need to learn that the research back us up. Makes their life easier too. #edchat @Parentella I'm glad that worked for you, but one size fits all memorization doesn't work for all (most? many?) #edchat @RussGoerend @ibott Problem is that not everyone has the same learning curve for mastery of skills/knowledge #edchat @Twilliamson15 #edchat but here in the UK parents EXPECT their children to do homework @web20classroom #edchat also the issue of confabulation...brain making incorrect meaning/connections due to attempted understanding Agreed! RT @teachtech: #edchat - I like the Chemistry teacher in CO who videod his lessons for homework, then did the work in class. Common myths: "more time on task" is beneficial + "practice makes perfect". To read later: http://tinyurl.com/ygopl9 #edchat Its really taken a lot out of us & we wish there was more leisure time so impacts adults as well #edchat My husband doing univ math course we spend 20 hrs wk according to the online course #edchat Perhaps homework improves fluency, but does not support new learning. #edchat RT @eduinnovation: It not quantity, but quality, need, and focus. No place for "tradition" anymore. #edchat RT @jarrodmartin1: RT @eduinnovation: Repetition for the sake of repetition is a waste of time. #edchat Saw a great quotation from @edteck, "Provide experience & provoke reflection." I think would be a good homework definition. #edchat What about reading at night in order to be able to have class discussion on the reading? Allows for more efficient use of classtime. #edchat @akohn09 learning should happen everywhere not just school.Life is a learning process everywhere. Shouldn't we extend that home. #edchat @jarrodmartin1 Why spend time on teaching what is already known... #edchat @RussGoerend I agree 100%. I also think that the way education is viewed also matters greatly. #edchat @spedteacher #edchat I was typing same. Conversely, if homework generates new learning, why do students need teachers? (extreme argument) Homework is part of edu fallacy that teachers are the keepers of learning and learing outside school is worthless at best. #edchat i like adding element of pre-search in an assignment. kids come in w/questions - ready for rich conversation....they see value #edchat I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat Perhaps too much work is why stdts grow up working 80hrs wk in office since in the habit already? #edchat RT @steelepierce Saw a great quotation frm @edteck, "Provide experience & provoke reflection." would be a good homework definition. #edchat So @dancallahan asks a great question? Should we not have assigned readings outside of class? #edchat @datadiva I'm with you on that extreme. #edchat @digitalmaverick #edchat many parents here do as well...I think it's perfectly fine if it's well designed and with a purpose @rushme2112 Yes, but learning is rich, varied, and not equiv. to teacher-assigned tasks #edchat @ShellTerrell There is also much talk about extending the school year. Should students be working around the clock? #edchat @spedteacher write interactive materials for students I teach and upload them to my website. In most cases, feedback is built in #edchat @Tokamist I'm surprised that you would not give homework if possible. Check out 5th grade: http://gameclassroom.com/skills/5/math #edchat @tomwhitby that's maybe harsh - many tchrs do correct hw - maybe more than classwork. #edchat @web20classroom I don't consider that homework. That's building background knowledge. #edchat @web20classroom I fear the reason why so many students hate reading is cause they equate it to HW, rather than the metaskill it is. #edchat Adults who work all the time are called work-a-holics, but students that work all night are called responsible. #edchat I am sure at some point hw was valuable and meaninful #edchat Provide delivery of content at home for homework... #edchat Provide delivery of content at home for homework... #edchat reading the day b4 or math practive, language, music practice makes a student get better at it. I speak from my own exp. and my kids #edchat So what I am seeing is that there is a problem with what is meaningful work outside of class #edchat Students don't need my help on everything they do. Why not use HW as a way to what they DO need me for? More in-dept in class. #edchat @akohn09 #edchat what about student selected processing activities, such as those used in Interactive Notebooks? Rich and varied enough? @akohn09 Corno & Xu found that homework did provide students with non academic benefits #edchat @akohn09 Some parents don't have the skills to provide these. Can't teachers suggest ideas to get the ball rolling? #edchat @cmt1 Gr8 question! I say let them have a summer they're only young once #edchat @esolcourses My class and students don't have the technology to do that. #edchat @rushme2112: @akohn09 I think things like having kids teach math game to parentsor looking for a species of bug outside can do this #edchat @RussGoerend It depends on the course and the class. Struggling readers would be severely handicapped. #edchat @ShellTerrell :) I am not so sure. There are a lot of countries that was significantly higher HW and work than here #edchat @web20classroom: #edchat "learning or practising skills?" MJ: Skills can be taught w/practice.Learning happens in tchble moments.Need both. Any HW asst. must meet 2 reqts: lead kids to think deeply about Qs that matter & enhance love of learning. #edchat Assigned Reading out of class makes sense if they have the comprehension skills and it is connected in class. #edchat But in our "get ahead to stay ahead" society that value has been lost... #edchat By in-depth, I mean more critical thinking, analysis, really digging into the content. Basic knowledge is needed to do that. #edchat It would give tchrs more time if they didnt have hmwk to grade to spend at stdt ceremonies, sport games, give support that counts #edchat My friend put aside workbook assigned to K daughter for summer and they learned about the world together.. #edchat RT @MaryKayG: Should homework not be differentiated, just as tasks within our classrooms are??? #edchat yes RT @web20classroom:So what I am seeing is that there is a problem with what is meaningful work outside of class #edchat there is a problem in what is meanful inside class too #edchat #edchat how do good study habits build from homework? Assuming there is supportive env at home? Not always true. @cmt1 All students love learning. Its just adult directed learning they resist. #edchat @MaryKayG Definitely. Great point. #edchat @pm9531 Agree that much classwork is also not meaningful; problem often compounded by more of same HW. #edchat @ShellTerrell #edchat but UK has a 'tradition' of homework being set & if not given gives parents reason to be upset @web20classroom HW can be an interractive experience with discussion between teacher and student when problems arise #edchat Agree RT @eduinnovation: Assigned Reading out of class makes sense if they have the comprehension skills & it is connected in class. #edchat How can any tchr base a class lesson on an overnight reading when half the class does not do the Hmwk #edchat I think Web 2.0 tools do enhance love of learning #edchat if each hw task were evaluated for worthiness, most would be eliminated #edchat meaningful hw tasks are about developing thinking skills IMO #edchat RT @akohn09: Any HW asst. must meet 2 reqts: lead kids to think deeply about Qs that matter & enhance love of learning. #edchat RT @akohn09: Any HW asst. must meet 2 reqts: lead kids to think deeply about Qs that matter & enhance love of learning. #edchat RT @akohn09: Any HW asst. must meet 2 reqts: lead kids to think deeply about Qs that matter & enhance love of learning. #edchat RT @cmt1: @MaryKayG My music students have to practice instr playing outside of the classroom. #edchat ties into Gladwell's 10000 hours RT @lbott: How can students master math concepts without time to practice and apply? #edchat RT @lbott: HW can be an interractive experience with discussion between teacher and student when problems arise #edchat #edchat - if only our kids were on twitter at night during homework time, and we could have a class discussion online about the topic #edchat confessed to my students today that I'm "addicted to learning" and hoped they would get hooked too :) @digitalmaverick Yes even in US when I taught in public school rule was hmwk or parents thought kids doin nothing in my class #edchat @eduinnovation I agree with your stance on homework repetition. What are your thoughts regarding educational games? #edchat @jkdham Yes...but that relates to increasing fluency, not new learning...no? #edchat @rushme2112 I agree with you. I think parents must also come together to help kids. It is vitally important #edchat @tearoof 100% agree #edchat @tomwhitby Not doing work is always a problem. #edchat RT @tearoof: if each hw task were evaluated for worthiness, most would be eliminated #edchat RT @tomwhitby: How can any tchr base a class lesson on an overnight reading when half the class does not do the Hmwk #edchat RT @Twilliamson15: #edchat confessed to my students today that I'm "addicted to learning" and hoped they would get hooked too :) .@Twilliamson15 I share specific things I did to learn the night before (like this) hoping they see what "homework" can be. #edchat @cmt1 @ShellTerrell students be working around the clock? #edchat MJ: No. They should be engaged in focused play as much as possible. @Parentella I was taking to some1 who told me in Italy its so much pressure w/ schools & too much stress they have high suicide rate #edchat @tomwhitby Did the students understand the reason for reading or have buy-in? I know that can be hard, but I always ask. #edchat @tomwhitby structure class so that coming prepared is more engaging and most students do the reading. #edchat

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@Twilliamson15 Congrats on your "addiction." Probably most of us participating tonight are also addicts. #edchat Do you ever think about why students don't do the homework? The answer might show you value of homework, or lack of it. #edchat Does homework add value to your classroom, your teaching and to your students learning? #edchat Focused play? What is focused play? #edchat Parents can form a group and discuss amongst each other as well to help the students. The burden is not the tchrs alone. #edchat RT @tomwhitby: How can any tchr base a class lesson on an overnight reading when half the class does not do the Hmwk #edchat To read later: testimony from tchrs (incl. HS) who abolished HW, with fabulous results #edchat @akohn09 Interesting...when I was in the classroom we couldn't assign on Wed. because of church #edchat @akohn09 Parents give them (ask for) that right. #edchat @gameclassroom @eduinnovation I think educational games can really help reinforce knowledge and also help kids learn new concepts #edchat @teachtech #edchat Many students already use the chat on facebook to talk about homework and help each other. @web20classroom think educators need to take care when dishing out homework. Agree not all homework is necessarily meaningful #edchat Depending on the community in which you teach, homework practices can significantly disadvantage some students. #edchat Fundam. questn: Do schools even have the right to tell families what kids must do when they're not at school? #edchat Gr8 pt!RT @tomwhitby: How can any tchr base a class lesson on an overnight reading when half the class does not do the Hmwk #edchat hw for primary- one purpose is to involve parents- but NOT to do the child's work #edchat I think we could all agree that for performance tasks - such as sports or music - practice is required and not same as "homework" #edchat More authentic & engaging learning during the instructional day would accomplish a great deal #edchat RT @MaryKayG: @cmt1 But does that help students who can't already play? I don't know the answer... #edchat give them diff pieces to play -DI RT @spedteacher: @cmt1 All students love learning. Its just adult directed learning they resist. #edchat RT @teachtech: #edchat - homework can be a great way to differentiate and challenge, but can also be a huge waste, depending on how you do @akohn09 And I regularly had kids in sports say they didn't have to do it because it was after school #edchat @gameclassroom @eduinnovation Of course, it depends on the game and what topics are being introduced... #edchat @Preppa My best homework assignment was having student log on a facebook-esque site and share data with students from another school #edchat @rjwassink Rt - it's just assumed that intellectual proficiency is analogous to behavior-perofrmance tasks. #edchat @rjwassink Kids CHOOSE to participate in sports or music. That's why its different than HAVING TO DO homework. #edchat @tearoof Great point. Primary parents need to be involved in their child's learning. #edchat @tomwhitby I've had that prob in every class so I learned quickly if I depended on tching obj that way I was out of luck! #edchat @web20classroom I have never assigned homework except what I'm willing to give "extra credit" for - almost like a show and tell #edchat @zmanrdz #edchat - absolutely, many high school students already online helping each other with homework. We just need to use that addicted to study (via @web20classroom @Twilliamson15) #edchat yes that must be the goal - teachers as exemplar learners then? Goes both ways? RT @akohn09: Fundamtl ?: Do schools have the right to tell families what kids must do when they're not at school? #edchat Incomplete homework often earns a student the label of lazy or irresponsible...but teacher might be unaware of reasons why hw is inc #edchat RT @akohn09: Fundam. questn: Do schools even have the right to tell families what kids must do when they're not at school? #edchat RT @datadiva: I fear the reason why so many students hate reading is cause they equate it to HW, rather than the metaskill it is. #edchat RT @MaryKayG: Perhaps homework improves fluency, but does not support new learning. #edchat That's what I think as well. Practice RT @spedteacher: @cmt1 All students love learning. Its just adult directed learning they resist. #edchat RT@@rjwassink new post about how 2 expose more teachers to Twitter and how to use #edchat http://tech70a.com The only "homework" I ever found valuable was reading -- usually for pleasure. #edchat think about it homeWork - where's references homeLearning? more than semantics #edchat what do we want homework to do? answering that question should determine what and if we assign it #edchat @akohn09 How do you respond to HS teachers who say they can't get through their content w/out homework? A persistant concern. #edchat @teachtech #edchat -if kids were on twitter Me: "during the day while they were wrkng in project teams + the tchr could mentor the groups. @teachtech but where do you draw the line for classroom teachers? when does the work day begin and end? issues to consider IMO #edchat @tearoof Parents doing homework is another reason homework loses value; in class performance can contradict homework performance. #edchat Common to just keep repeating: make it GOOD h.w. But remember, evid. doesn't support need for ANY h.w. #edchat Good question: RT @web20classroom Is homework used to teach or is it used because it is somthing we have always done in education #edchat RT @akohn09: Fundam. questn: Do schools even have the right to tell families what kids must do when they're not at school? #edchat RT @web20classroom: Does homework add value to your classroom, your teaching and to your students learning? #edchat Those are some pretty powerful points I just RT'd, if I do say so myself #edchat We want kids to develop emotionally, artistically, phs'ly, soc'ly, etc. HW assumes acad. dev. supercedes all! #edchat @akohn09 If no HW, r we truly preparing our kids for Higher Ed where there will certainly be work outside class. #edchat @web20classroom @Ellzbeth Half did & half did not. #edchat @limecooler Educators can really leverage technology to engage students in innovative homework assignments -- love your HW! #edchat @rjwassink OK (being slightly cheeky here) how about 'rehearsing' for tests? #edchat @rjwassink OK (being slightly cheeky here) how about 'rehearsing' for tests? #edchat @ShellTerrell my students are loving spellingcity http://tr.im/x6WC and mathletics http://tr.im/x6WH makes rote learning stuff fun #edchat @spedteacher so how do we get them to CHOOSE to learn outside of school? Sounds like it could work :-) #edchat @teachtech online teachers already doing this, but have the flexibility of time that a classroom teacher does not #edchat assigning web homework is difficult since not all students have internet!#edchat every home is different; some, some have different priorities #edchat every home is different; some, some have different priorities #edchat Everything we do in the classroom should add meaning to learning? Are we doing that when we assign all the odd's for math hw? #edchat In my 14yrs experience, I have mostly seen Homework used as a meaningless check or a punitive strike #edchat RT @akohn09: Common to just keep repeating: make it GOOD h.w. But remember, evid. doesn't support need for ANY h.w. #edchat RT @aldtucker: #edchat is there a difference between practice & homework? Music, languages need practice...set up practice as being the h/w Schools are stuck in the 1950's. Web 2.0 means nothing to most schools #edchat @akohn09 Supporting multiple intelligences and all kinds of learners is a must for educators #edchat @jkdham How do I practice my Chinese if my parents don't speak it? #edchat @MaryKayG @jkdham Yes...but that relates to increasing fluency, not new learning...no? #edchat MJ: Learning a language = more fluent, no? @Re_SearchingEd I agree! Fantastic. #edchat @rjwassink does extra credit distort reporting of what students know and are able to do? #edchat @rushme2112 I agree with you 100%. Education is now global. Are we preparing our kids wrt teaching styles overseas? #edchat @shapah Yes! Its true now the retirement ages have extended & most ppl think they should keep working #edchat @zmanrdz Great point about Facebook. We've also seen many kids using instant messaging and iChat. Email is less popular. #edchat Agreed! RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat Are threats of homework a means of classroom management? #edchat Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat like most tthings in life it takes practice to get good at something and practice to increase speed and accuracy #edchat many students hate reading because they've had 2 answer stupid questions about it, like: what is the date on the deed of per hansa's.#edchat RT @akohn09: We want kids to develop emotionally, artistically, phs'ly, soc'ly, etc. HW assumes acad. dev. supercedes all! #edchat RT @jkdham RT @MaryKayG: Perhaps homework improves fluency, but does not support new learning. #edchat That's what I think as well. Practice RT @MaryKayG: Depending on the community in which you teach, homework practices can significantly disadvantage some students. #edchat @Parentella I believe we lower our standards when we stop doing something because kids don't want to do it. No matter what it is. #edchat @Preppa It really opened my eyes! Engagement was incredible!! Definitely changed my ideas on purpose of homework #edchat @spedteacher @jkdham learning a language definitely requires a lot of repetition and practice to ingrain grammar and vocab concepts #edchat @wmchamberlain #edchat some pardnts would think it wasn't a valid learning exercise is the word 'fun' was used However some colleges are worst at giving lots of hmwk, lectures only of 500 stdts, & mindless work #edchat land in "giants of the earth?" (real question from test when i was in 9th grade) #edchat Question: why do teacher preparation programs still stress the importance of assigning HW ? #edchat RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat RT @web20classroom RT @tomwhitby: How can any tchr base a lesson on an overnight reading when half the class doesn't do the Hmwk #edchat

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When you mix ineffectiveness of HW w/grading practices that penalize for incomplete HW, you get a REAL mess. #edchat @blairteach Good pt & then stdt grades near failing on something often not taught in class or mindless to begin with #edchat @JenAnsbach Why is the assumption that evry kid loves learning enough 2do unmotivating busy work? Not evry kid can wk outside class. #edchat @MaryKayG Can you expand on this thought more? #edchat @NMHS_Principal apparently teacher prep programs haven't made a shift in thinking #edchat @rushme2112 Yes, We must force students to comply with our standards. #edchat @Twilliamson15 never had a student gain > 3 points on their report card grade - 94 to a 97. EC is rarely done by lower-perf students #edchat Can meaningful learning take place outside of the classroom? What form would it look like? I think #edchat is a great example... I teach honors classes and homework completion is the minimum requirement to stay in our program. High expectations get results #edchat RT @eduinnovation: Why give homework to student who know how to do it? Repetition for the sake of repetition is a waste of time. #edchat RT @NMHS_Principal: Question: why do teacher preparation programs still stress the importance of assigning HW ? #edchat RT @web20classroom: Agreed! RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat RT@melhutch Shouldn't we focus on improving thelearning in schools- only then can we find authentic homework that is worth the time #edchat When learning isn't engaging & students are off task RT @MaryKayG: Are threats of homework a means of classroom management? #edchat @Janshs exemplar learners or master learners might be a better term for where we should be heading #edchat @NMHS_Principal Because a lot of teacher prep programs are taught by people who haven't seen a classroom is years... #edchat @NMHS_Principal homework-setting is an integral part of most UK school lessons but for a variety if reasons #edchat @Parentella On what? (getting lost!) :-) #edchat @web20classroom nice idea - have asked 15 yr olds to do this kind of thing in past - success for some - those who *got* it #edchat Can we all agree that even if not ready to elim. HW, it makes no sense to give same assgnmt to all studs in class? #edchat RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat RT @snappity: NO. Very much antihomework as a teacher and a parent. Rec. The Case Against Homework, too. #edchat @cmt1 @maryKayG I've heard lots of tchrs punish stdts w/ additional work due to bad stdt behavior #edchat @NMHS_Principal The problem w/tch prep is similar to problem of integrating tech; same mindset ("Way WE did it--good enough.") #edchat @wbasinger If I know the material and can prove it, why do I have to do homework to stay in your honors progam? #edchat @wbasinger Is the honors program about you and your needs as a teacher or mine as a student? #edchat @web20classroom Sadly, many who spend time in classrooms are just reproducing the way they looked decades ago. #edchat I agree that diff HW and teaching styles must be adopted for diff situations. A tchr here: http://bit.ly/HE3an +http://bit.ly/AhPDf #edchat I think that college does it best; HW is worth barely 10% of your grade; exams test your knowledge and determines most of your grade #edchat RT @akohn09 Best prep for college is curiosity, desire . . precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat Doesn't that depend on the assignment? RT @aldtucker: In some of my grad classes, there is hope re: HW, but in schools, it is EXPECTED. x hours in y grade... #edchat RT @eduinnovation: Assigned Rdg as h/w makes sense if they have comp skills & connected in class. #edchat using diff text 4 same purpose RT@akohn09:Can we all agree that even if not ready to elim.HW, it makes no sense to give same assgnmt to all studs in class? #edchat So if some of us are antihomework, and I know ther are more, why are we not hearing more about parents who refuse to have kids do it #edchat #edchat I loved angry parents who got mad I marked homework wrong - turned out they had done most of it for the student @akohn09 Absolutely can agree w/need to differentiate (if MUST give homework). #edchat @akohn09 Differentiating homework is a great idea. We need to remember that "More" is not differentiation. #edchat @ShellTerrell HW is used as punishment too often #edchat @ShellTerrell Likewise, I've seen tchrs reward good behavior by taking away hw #edchat @ToughLoveforX Ask kids. They see even better assts as something to be gotten over w/ ASAP so they can do what they enjoy #edchat @web20classroom because college professors aren't generally educators; often mathematicians, english majors, etc #edchat @web20classroom I would have my son refuse to do homework, but school punishes him when he does refuse. #edchat but there are also a lot of teacher prep programs that offer field experiences built into an authentic K-12 environment #edchat is using diff methods to teach these kids. They don't have time to do hw. We publish his methods this week. #edchat RT @akohn09: @NMHS_Principal Same reason they're perpetuating other pointless stuff: tests, grades, lecs, mem., etc. #edchat Gr8 points! Seems to me when push comes to shove, we just accept it as something that has always been done... #edchat Totally! RT akohn09 @web20classroom Sadly, many who spend time in classrooms are just reproducing the way they looked decades ago. #edchat @JenAnsbach if kids can do the stuff on their own, it's not in their zone of proximal development & they know the stuff already #edchat @Re_SearchingEd All the proof we need that tchrs & kids both see HW as aversive. No wonder it fails to promote learning! #edchat @web20classroom No kids, yet :) #edchat Alfie Kohn also has lots of articles, vids, etc on rewards & punishments in schools http://www.alfiekohn.org/tapesdvd.htm #edchat HWork can be traced back to 19th cent req for a workforce inculcated with a predefined body of knowledge its not for learning today #edchat I tell tchrs if they wouldn't have someone absent for multiple days make up HW, it wasn't worth doing in the first place. #edchat my son's school rewards w/ hw passes #edchat Q: Would a 'social network' which allowed for collaboration amongst teachers to discuss curriculum and techniques be useful? #edchat RT @blairteach: @akohn09 Absolutely can agree w/need to differentiate (if MUST give homework). #edchat see winterhill.ca for Cdn movement RT @web20classroom: why are we not hearing more about parents who refuse to have kids do hw #edchat Was away for a while-did we talk about the fact that HW requires parent involvement. If no adult home to help, it's useless. #edchat what instructional scaffolding can a teacher provide for homework? #edchat Yes RT @akohn09:Can we agree that even if not ready to elim. HW- makes no sense to give same assgnmt to all studs in class? #edchat #edchat How about, "You must give x hrs of HW" and "To reward, give a Free-HW pass" What message does that send re: HW? @mbteach Some parents don't have education to help child either #edchat @ShellTerrell @tomwhitby @web20classroom my approach is that homework is optional, but encourage learners to do it 4 own benefit #edchat @theokk I wonder what your statement says about the quantity of homework in Japan, China and India? #edchat @tomwhitby and when the teacher spends the next day teaching what was supposed to be done at home? #edchat RT @Ellzbeth: @akohn09 Differentiating homework is a great idea. We need to remember that "More" is not differentiation. #edchat RT @web20classroom: Agreed! RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat Seems the problems cited w/ homework are the same as with poor classwork. Bad lesson=bad lesson, whether@ school or home. #edchat @akohn09 No #edchat @esolcourses I also give web2.0 tools & links for further exploration but dont grade it or require it only ans ?s if asked #edchat @GameClassroom Nothing wrong with using ed game #edchat @JenAnsbach so you're talking about homework as prep work for an activity not a new learning experience? #edchat @mbteach If student can learn it at home why do they need schools and teachers? #edchat @tweetfromabove3 isn't that what #edchat and twitter is? @web20classroom But "that's the way we've always done it" is a paradigm we MUST change! I ♥ this #edchat idea for real learning. HW is a sacred cow? RT @web20classroom: Seems when push comes to shove, we just accept it as something that has always been done. #edchat @JenAnsbach i also teach hs english. maybe we're onto an important distinction: homework as prep 4 something #edchat @Twilliamson15 this is what I have been saying to my colleagues for years! #edchat @zmanrdz its the 'chat on facebook' that is the critical element here not the 'homework' #edchat Also, the idea of diff homework for each student (if it's to be fully assessed) needs to get back in a classroom of 35 per block. #edchat At the school I work at we essentially assign hw individually. Talking to students about there weaknesses and then Rec smth. #edchat Does anyone use hw to introduce new concepts? Seems to me to be a trend in constantly squeezed for time classrooms... #edchat I agree! RT @web20classroom: RT @tearoof: if each hw task were evaluated for worthiness, most would be eliminated #edchat In my action research w/tchs, group w/optional HW outscored group w/reqrd HW. Guided practice group (no HW) outscored both. #edchat My institute doesnt require hmwk so that had most influence on my decisions, in pub school diffrt they required hm so I gave it #edchat NO! RT @web20classroom: Does anyone use hw to introduce new concepts? #edchat RT@mbteach: agree #edchat Since when do we 'learn' doing HW? ISn't it supposed to reinforce? #edchat sorry, forgot the #edchat - like many assignments, students should be free to be creative with HW - show me you comprehend, you can apply @aldtucker I know many pupils who will willingly spend hours on homework #edchat @mbteach If the kid doesn't have the concept in the first place HW just reinforces confusion if anything. #edchat @mbteach- so true, esp. w/ math #edchat @philhart Yes. HW should be something that the child can do by themself or that is practice of what they already know #edchat

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@ShellTerrell many parents are embarrassed to tell the teacher they don't understand their child's HW. #edchat @spedteacher How do you prove it? If you have not read the Odessey how do you demonstrate mastery of the content? #edchat @web20classroom I have in the past, but am disappointed by how little the students understand...it doesn't give me any extra time #edchat Do you provide feedback on all completed homework? #edchat I am supposed to assign HW every day. Standard assignment: bring a writing instrument to school tomorrow. #edchat I still am bothered by "parents expect homework" #edchat I think institution or school policy determines a lot of the practice of the teachers #edchat Our staff read "HW Myth" and had a "HW Policy Redesign Committee" but no one could agree, so it's still 10 mins/nt pr grade #edchat So you expect your child to have hours of work to do after hours of work done at school? #edchat Such a contentious issue, this HW business! :) #edchat Suggestion: if believe yr HW is useful, try eliminating it for 1 unit or month. What FX on kids' thinking, attitudes, etc? #edchat Zero evidence supports the 10mins/night/grade, by the way #edchat #edchat Integrating technology, with the classroom and (most importantly) with the teacher, has become critical to professional development. #edchat teaching high school students with severe emotional/behavioral disorders..homework? No way. I'm just working to engage them in class @blairteach #edchat Nearly everything I ever learned of value was learned reading at home and researching in libraries. Classes were minor. @ShellTerrell I don't grade work/links I set for homework, either. Mainly set stuff as follow-up and/or prep for next session #edchat @spedteacher a kid trying to do HW they don't understand will turn them off from a concept or subject entirely! #edchat @web20classroom I wish parent's "expected" to teach their children politeness and how to dress as much as they expected homework #edchat How many tchr candidates would get the job if they declared"I do not believe Hmwk works and I am not planning to give it"? #edchat HW is like 1 thread in the educ tapestry. Pull on it and all the other threads (pedag., motiv., assessmt) start to wiggle. #edchat Parents should find fun ways of integrating learning at home, like with games or computer programs if that's what the children enjoy #edchat Problem is teachers often judge themselves by the assignments they create, so hw = tied to self-identity/worth as a teacher #edchat RT @blairteach: The only "homework" I ever found valuable was reading -- usually for pleasure. #edchat me too, their choice of text RT @nancydevine: what do we want homework to do? answering that question should determine what and if we assign it #edchat RT @teachtech: #edchat - like many assignments, students should be free 2be creative with HW - show comprehension. Apply it, do it your way RT @web20classroom: I still am bothered by "parents expect homework" #edchat It has been embedded into the culture unfortunately RT@blairteach: The only "homework" I ever found valuable was reading -- usually for pleasure. #edchat me too, their choice of text #edchat I use hw as reflective piece either 4 lit we read in class or as prep for lit we will read I don't assign difficult reading as hw @blairteach really agree with this point #edchat @cmt1 We totally agree Carol! Please check out our site: www.GameClassroom.com. Great blog...I just bought "A Whole New Mind." #edchat @drkmcneil One of the tchrs we talked to also has similar issues. Do tune in to our blog where we discuss his methods #edchat @literacyadviser thanks Bill if you follow #edchat on twitterfall etcr you can see debate US, so time difference (nearly bedtime for us) @spedteacher can't both be benefitted? I grow with each reading of a text & they grow through exposure, but exposure requires work #edchat @theokk Yes, but if the chat turns into great learning, so what. Don't students come into class chatting, then they focus in. #edchat @tomwhitby GOOD question! #edchat @tomwhitby Sadly probably none... #edchat @web20classroom I spent 34 yrs in the classroom. I teach my student teachers HMWK is not necessary. #edchat I read about someone using blogging 2 assign optional HW assignments. By the end of the year almost all students were doing their HW #edchat If a student can't complete the HW, imagine his frame of mind entering your class the next day! #edchat I'm opposed to hw from a parents persp. Its too focused on liter/numer nothing creative, the whole class has the same w/s. #edchat Not everything that counts can be counted #edchat RT @akohn09: Suggestion: if believe yr HW is useful, try elim. it for 1 unit or month. What FX on kids' thinking, attitudes, etc? #edchat RT @akohn09: Suggestion: if blieve yr HW is usefl, try eliminating it for 1 unit, mth.What FX on kids' thinking, attitudes, etc? #edchat RT @akohn09: Suggestion: if believe yr HW is useful, try elim. it for 1 unit or month. What FX on kids' thinking, attitudes, etc? #edchat RT @akohn09: Zero evidence supports the 10mins/night/grade, by the way #edchat RT @akohn09: Zero evidence supports the 10mins/night/grade, by the way #edchat Well said@web20classroom Agreed! RT @akohn09: Best prep for college is curiosity, desire to learn - precisely what HW tends to kill. #edchat YES! Let's make a wiki to track all of our progress! RT @akohn09:Suggestion:if believeHW is useful, try eliminating it for 1 unit. #edchat #edchat My teacher used to let us test out of chapters - 100% = no work, so I studied my tail off at night to avoid math lectures @akohn09 I find education like tangled balls of yarn. Pull one piece and it affects a different piece. Everything intertwined. #edchat @cmt1 But if it counts should it not receive feedback? (not necessarily marks or a formal assessment) #edchat @mbteach My father said his parents had 3rd grade ed so he could never pass math or sci hs classes; required too diff hmwk #edchat @spedteacher sounds like a good HW assignment. Here's another one: eat breakfast and get 8 hours of sleep! #edchat @tomwhitby in this country I reckon 0% would be appointed with that approach #edchat 0'? RT @tomwhitby: How many tchr candidates would get the job if they declared"I do not believe Hmwk ?" #edchat But other parents just seem to love hm - "it prepares them for h/s & university" - I think this is over-estimated. #edchat I still see people saying they don't want it for their kids but yet we assign it to other peoples kids...how is that fair? #edchat i@mbteach agree HW should reinforce, where do students develop the discipline to reach deeper meaning in a subject area? #edchat RT @mbteach I wish all kids could blog for hw #edchat Suggestion: If Jason's parents insist on HW, give it just to him. Feel bad for Jason, but at least other kids don't have to suffer #edchat we need data on the effect of web2.0 hw #edchat #edchat I put together prestudy sheets for EFL classes. Each has a brief explanation, some key vocab, examples, & some exercises. + response #edchat What prof development? No $$. I teach social science and digital media design (DMD). I have bought everything for the DMD class. @cmt1 I did! That was a question and I proudly said I do not do "traditional homework" (and namedropped you, Alfie.) Got the job! #edchat @esolcourses For ELLs living where L1 spoken I think there has to be some practice #edchat @MaryKayG Feedback...yes #edchat @ShellTerrell I remember taking my HW to my dad to help me. HE went 2 college, had trouble doing it! #edchat @teachtech :) #edchat. @web20classroom because the parents who love homework & pressure teachers to set it, aren't here on twitter #edchat Also ability 2 complete NOT immediately meaningful work w/deadline by RT @akohn09: Best prep for college--curiosity, desire 2 learn #edchat if setting it, HW should allow for students to do something to extend their learning that they can't do in the classroom... #edchat Prep for univ? Lots of kids who get loads of HW in HS fall apart at univer. And many kids who get no HW do just fine. #edchat RT @akohn09: @NMHS_Principal Hardly a reason 2 do what's bad for kids b/c of misinformation on pts' part. Educate them! #edchat I am! Son in 99th % for reading; we've had battles all summer over assigned reading hw but none over the book he got to choose. #edchat @akohn09 I agree. the "prep for uni" argument is over-blown. @akohn09 That's because HW does not "teach responsibility" as is claimed often. #edchat @GameClassroom I mainly teach adults these days. Although I suspect there are even more distracting things for them to do than kids! #edchat @JenAnsbach i understand your pt. #edchat @NMHS_Principal in the UK I'd say it was fair to say that parents DO expect homework #edchat @RussGoerend Wow, good on ya! Don't think it would fly in too many districts in my area. #edchat @tearoof What does "web2.0 hw" look like? #edchat Free reading is fine kind of "HW," as long as kids choose what to read as well as how much/long & no reports required #edchat Gr8t idea RT @akohn09: if believe HW useful, try eliminating for 1 unit/month. What FX on kids' thinking, attitudes, etc? #edchat RT @akohn09: @NMHS_Principal Hardly a reason to do what's bad for kids b/c of misinformation on pts' part. Educate them! #edchat RT @akohn09: Suggestion: If Jason's parents insist on HW, give just to him. Feel bad for Jason, but at least other kids don't suffer #edchat RT @tearoof: web2.0 hw might not result in higher test scores, but surely is valuable #edchat web2.0 hw might not result in higher test scores, but surely is valuable #edchat #edchat b/c of HW in Reading in school, I learned that I would hate anything assigned, missed out on lots of prob. gr8 books. #edchat Some prestudy means the class can spend more time on applying new target language in real & relevant communicative activities. @web20classroom I learned algebra, trig and calc by mastering problem sets & building on that to more challenging wrk #edchat @web20classroom I observed a master tchr who gave new content 4 hw bc school events & testing took class time. #edchat Is there a way to record the Homework discussion at #edchat ? RT @blairteach I find education like tangled balls of yarn. Pull one piece and it affects a different piece. Everything intertwined. #edchat

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RT @jkdham: RT @nancydevine: what do we want homework to do? answering that question should determine what and if we assign it #edchat Very true RT @akohn09: Lots of kids who get loads of HW in HS fall apart at univer. #edchat @mbteach Great ideas! I am enjoying your tweets! #edchat @mbteach I am sorry I do not understand. I think it was basing a lesson on a reading and only half read. #edchat @RussGoerend: blogging, wikis, glogster... #edchat @tearoof does higher test scores necessarily = valuable? (I don't think that's what you were saying, just raises a good point) #edchat @web20classroom Yes there are... Here's a video of how they do it: http://tinyurl.com/fliplectureandhomework #edchat All I know is according to my parents, I never give enough hw. It's third grade people!! I have them read a book of their choice. #edchat How could HW teach "respons" when kids have nothing to say about the assts? True only if "respons" defined as "mindless obedience" #edchat RT @akohn09: What matters isn't whether YOU think an assignment is thoughtful & worthwhile, but how it looks to kids. #edchat the problem much HW suffers from is the time delay between the HW and the verification of the correct answers #edchat Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested it, perhaps with a set of generic skills required? #edchat @digitalmaverick not true.... a deputy head was saying exact opposite today #edchat will try and dig out ref @karenszymusiak You would be exceptional as an EDU leader. #edchat @LeesaWatego I like that idea...but what about the students who choose to pursue nothing at the moment? #edchat @web20classroom Rigor is good and building study skills are essential for indep study regardless of whose kids r involved #edchat How do you respond to HS teachers who say they can't get through their content w/out homework? Persistant concern. #edchat If you are worried about having access to #edchat discussion. The wonderful edchat archiver @jswiatek is making archive for everyone! I'm constantly making judgment calls about giving hw. I do know that on the nights I don't, my students work miracles the next day. #edchat Primary parents can be the toughest RT @shannonbauley: accord to my parents, I never give enough hw. It's third grade!! #edchat @tearoof And this is required, X-amount-of-time per night stuff? #edchat @tomwhitby if the lesson is engaging, kids will ask if they can do work from home. That's one reason to infuse tech. #edchat @tonitones Can't also prepare them for learning in the classroom? #edchat RT @CotterHUE: RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested in? #edchat RT @LeesaWatego Why can't homework be a student pursuing something that they're interested in, perhaps with a set of generic req'ts? #edchat RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested in? #edchat Tchrs complain abt pts demanding HW, but I hear from the pts whose children are weeping & tchr refuses to rethink his/her practice #edchat @AFM_art Begs question of why kids have to work a 2nd shift after a full day in school - doing anything academic #edchat @cytochromec Proof.How about a video on youtube? Present the concept using a powerpoint. Write a blog that other students can read. #edchat @RussGoerend: optional, not used for grading #edchat @theokk well I don't know of a school that'd agree with a teacher that was vocally anti-hwk #edchat A personal interest project-initiative, curiosity, self-directed learning. Put it all on a wiki (4 monitoring by teacher) #edchat Bigger problem of curriculum? RT@ Ellzbeth: How do you respond to HS teachers who say they can't get thru their content w/out hw? #edchat How do you read 1000 survey text without homework? #edchat How do you read 1000 survey text without homework? #edchat So we are all about revolutionizing hw? How do we get others involved? How do we move it from Twitter to the mainstream? #edchat Spark the students' curiosity during class and the homework will take care of itself. #edchat #edchat Awesome point about doing something they are interested in @akohn09 actually, in KG, my son got so much HW, it was outrageous. We used to spend 2+ hrs on it! #edchat @LeesaWatego Great way to involve students a subject they may not love at first. #edchat @MaryKayG True. if you set the conditions right & they're still not interested - then perhaps disengagement runs deep.. #edchat @tearoof There ya go! I don't think that would fall under most's definition of HW then (optional, ungraded). #edchat @tomwhitby If the kids don't read the reading for HW, the teacher has teach it during class is all I meant #edchat @wbasinger when do you think you moved from mechanical processes in solving math problems to understanding? did it require HW? #edchat I'd like to make high school hw much more collaborative - could that work for higher ed though? #edchat RT @akohn09: we all agree that even if not ready to elim. HW,it makes no sense to give same assgnmt to all? #edchat exactly, that's DI RT @ShellTerrell: @cmt1 @maryKayG I've heard lots of tchrs punish stdts w/ additional work due to bad stdt behavior #edchat YIKES! RT @web20classroom @CotterHUE: RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested in? #edchat You can't please all prnts-- half hate it, half need it.Gd pt about having "optional" for those who "want" it, lk math game websites #edchat @akohn09 Too much/too little HW complaints happen in same school w/same tchr; depends on parent's expectations. #edchat @ashleyproud Sad but true... #edchat @Farandolae There's a twitter chat going on at #edchat right now with @alfiekohn (THE anti-hw guy). We should talk sometime. ;) @LeesaWatego on a younger level I think Interactive Notebooks head toward what you suggest: choice, interest, synthesis #edchat @mbteach Many tchrs deliberately have kids read during class. See N. Atwell's The Reading Zone, e.g. #edchat @mbteach HW does not need parental involvement - I certainly never needed it. Does that also mean kids w working 'rents can't do HW? #edchat @Re_SearchingEd @Elizbeth Gr8 question! I hear this all the time w/ emphasis on standards in school esp after NCLB #edchat @ShellTerrell I agree. Tho most adult learners lead busy lives. Would be unrealistic to expect them 2 do too much outside lessons #edchat @tawilkins choice is a WONDERFUL option for HW! Kids r more likely to do something & enjoy it if they had a say! #edchat @therebull What is working rents? #edchat @web20classroom Take a stand! Have an answer when questioned. #edchat @web20classroom Unfortunately in regards to the revolution, people have got to want to jump on board #edchat No HW defender has ever made a credible case for REGULAR h.w. - assigned daily whether useful, nec., or not #edchat RT @web20classroom So we're all abt revolutionizing hw? How do we get others involved? How do we move it from Twitter 2 mainstream? #edchat There's also a disconnect bw expectations & demands. My 8 yr old had more h/w than my 14 yr old. So frustrating #edchat #edchat I've often felt guilty for not having time to give timely, good feedback on HW. And with only 10-40% done, made it more difficult . @web20classroom (1) get more tchrs on Twitter (2) use idea of PLN as part of school PD (3) lead by example #edchat @akohn09 no American defender or no internal has made that claim? #edchat @esolcourses Many kids are over-scheduled and busier than parent, yet expected to do LOTS of HW. #edchat @Janshs Many of my college classes required student interaction. Def. an important skill. #edchat @spedteacher might be confused but what if they figure it out on their own thru critical thinking? #edchat @therebull NVM, got it. I think that HW does need parental involvement. #edchat @Twilliamson15 interactive notebooks - LOVE THIS!! will explore further. #edchat @web20classroom I think the tools of production is one of the keys. Have them make a youtube channel with all they learned. #edchat This is why I'm on twitter! #edchat Thanks for the food for thought as I enter this new school year. We should be instilling a love of learning in our students so they WANT to go home and review classwork or extend the lesson #edchat @aldtucker I agree! I remember spending hrs grading each paper to give proper feedbck & goals for next paper #edchat @jkdham aint that crazy?! #edchat @Parentella Urban parents don't necessarily have 9-5's, many work double shifts etc = latchkey kids, etc #edchat @TheRebull you're lucky!You never had your parent checking that it was done?You never had lunch detention b/c you didn't do your HW? #edchat @zmanrdz I think that is a great idea! #edchat Are we agreed that most kids view most HW as stuff to be done w/ASAP? #edchat I've used Interactive Notebooks quite a bit, and I see good results. #edchat Just watch my daughter complete 8 LNG dub probs in 54 secs, last wk 5 min for same problems. Difference daily homework of 50 probs. #edchat RT @akohn09: No HW defender has ever made a credible case for REGULAR h.w. - assigned daily whether useful, nec., or not #edchat RT @Janshs: . @web20classroom (1) get more tchrs on Twitter (2) use idea of PLN as part of school PD (3) lead by example #edchat @akohn09 ...or stuff to avoid for as long as possible! #edchat @akohn09 HW is about practice. Repetition is the mother of learning. You can't waste instruction time on individual drill work. #edchat @akohn09 I believe that to be true... #edchat @Ellzbeth Do they do the Interactive Notebooks outside of class? #edchat @GameClassroom very few of my kids have home computers or internet connection at home :( #edchat @MaryKayG disengagement - no double-sided homework worksheet will CURE this.. #edchat @mbteach Couldn't agree more! I used to beg for more HW as a kid #edchat @ShellTerrell with kids, think you are probably right in saying school policy determines whether teachers give out homework, or not #edchat

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If colleges keep making their stdnts marketable according to what EDU leaders want today, we will nvr move frwrd. Hmwk is 1 example #edchat math without hw not in my lifetime #edchat RT @shannonbauley: This is why I'm on twitter! #edchat Thanks for the food for thought as I enter this new school year. RT @ShellTerrell I think institution or school policy determines a lot of the practice of the teachers #edchat (LAUSD has policy) @blairteach Mostly, in class time is given for everything. Students may elaborate or delve deeper at home if they wish. #edchat @LeesaWatego Oh...I agree with you completely! #edchat @mbteach I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #edchat @oline73 Quite the contrary, repetition is mother of temporary memorization w/o understanding or interest #edchat @Taz5175 It's already here -- used successfully by many (of the best) teachers #edchat @Taz5175 There are math teachers who don't give HW -- few and far between,but DO exist! #edchat @tomgrissom Yes, by knowing the mechanics, I can get to abstract thinking. Level 1 Bloom is essential 4 other levels. #edchat @tomwhitby I agree colleges need to set the pace especially w/ freshmen who often dont get meaningful instruction just lecture #edchat @zmanrdz @web20classroom @oline73 What did you think of the study stating online education beats the classroom? http://bit.ly/OiMI7 #edchat @zmanrdz @web20classroom @oline73 What did you think of the study stating online education beats the classroom? http://bit.ly/OiMI7 #edchat hw is thought to instill work ethic i don't agree #edchat IS there anyone out there who LOVES HW? I keep seeing the negative comments #edchat RT @mbteach: @philhart Yes. HW should be something that the child can do by themself or that is practice of what they already know #edchat wtf is a #edchat #edchat ? wtf is that suppose to be? o.O #edchat is now trending. Tell us what it is at http://wthashtag.com/edchat define it http://cli.gs/XBnTW @akohn09 Most kids hate homework. #edchat @akohn09 completely agree, reaching understanding is the goal, unfortunately the way much HW is structured makes this difficult #edchat @blairteach #edchat my IAN assignments are sometimes in class, sometimes out of class...start the year in class, move to more independence @mbteach I am a parent though, not a teacher. #edchat @mbteach I lied to my parents every night, got lunch detention every single day... it was the norm, but I wasn't going to do hmwk #edchat @oline73 Curiosity is the mother of learning, not repetition. Yikes. #edchat @ShellTerrell In the case of LAUSD determine and undermine would both be applicable re: teacher practice. #edchat #teachertuesday @Tokamist Especially since the HW completions rates are generally abysmal. What kind of "work ethic" is that? #edchat @Twilliamson15 then we don't risking turning learning into a chore-or a nightmare!- for those kids who may struggle. #edchat design hw with the same care u design lessons #edchat Find out why "#edchat" is trending here: http://fad.ly/980B4 For change in HW to occur must involve all stakeholders! #edchat How do we get parents to rethink a no homework policy? #edchat My wife (6th grade math) never assigns hw... #edchat We are trending #edchat @akohn09 do you think there's any way to make homework useful..meaningful? #edchat @jbrooks19 do you grade them on it? #edchat @mbteach I am doing homework this summer to prepare for classes. I love the research of these topics & can reveal more to students #edchat @mbteach nope. I love(d) learning. Don't know how it was inspired but I never needed prodding - every kid has that potential #edchat @NMHS_Principal I agree with you. #edchat @Parentella tell us what you love about HW! #edchat @tomwhitby Agree that any/all homework assigned should be VALUABLE. HW should never be assigned just for the sake of assigning HW. #edchat @Twilliamson15 we can also differentiate our HW to solve this problem #edchat @web20classroom She is the 1st math tchr I've heard of who doesnt bcuz most sign hrs of hmwk #edchat Agreed @NMHS_Principal-- what's ur strategy at ur school for change? #edchat And when parents question, she stands her ground...she runs her classroom... #edchat As a parent, (frmr teacher) I often just say no to certain HW assn..& we (kid&me) choose an alternate parallel activity or not.. #edchat Even "good/smart" kids don't like homework. Leave them alone and they will use the time to create their own learning opportunities. #edchat I agree with @CotterHUE for EFL, yoi have to do some pre-study so they get the most out of the class which is witha native speaker. #edchat I'd support homework if it was engaging, meaningful etc. But in 9 yrs as a mum I've rarely seen this for my children. #edchat Not assigning homework is not the same as not encouraging students to work at home. #edchat on my todo list is #edchat fantastic http://redir.ec/yrjI RT @mbteach Weshould be instilling a love of learning in our students so they WANT 2 go home & review classwork or extend the lesson #edchat RT @tomwhitby: If colleges keep making their stdnts marketable according to what EDU leaders want today, we will nvr move forward. #edchat so #edchat is what exactly? @blairteach Agree many kids are expected to do too much. Also think that rationale behind homework is sometimes poorly thought out #edchat @leewin we moved 2 a diff school district and the new one has way less HW. It is much easier for the kids for sure. #edchat @mbteach good point, another reason to keep hw optional and/or give choices #edchat @ShellTerrell And her is one but they hired her to be an educator and that is what she does...just with out hw... #edchat @tomwhitby ...work that way. #edchat @wizdommy Precisely what often happens, I've learned, in schools that give no trad. HW #edchat Absolutely agree! RT @tearoof: design hw with the same care u design lessons #edchat I should say 9 years as a "school" mum. (four kids in schools over 9 years). #edchat My daughter loves to draw and color..except when it is assigned for homework! #edchat RT @MaryKayG: Not assigning homework is not the same as not encouraging students to work at home. #edchat WAT KINDA BLOODCLOT TRENDIN TOPIC IS #EDCHAT WTF Wow! RT @datadiva: How about that! @edchat is trending on the front page of twitter search! #edchat #edchat Questn: Do some subjects need homework assignments? Is 40-50 min 3 times per week classroom time enough to learn foreign language? @JenAnsbach I'm getting in on the #edchat. Haha. @mbteach As a parent, I love that I get to bond with my kid. It gives me a way to lean more abt his school day #edchat @mbteach As a parent, I love that I get to bond with my kid. It gives me a way to lean more abt his school day #edchat @Parentella even BETTER! #edchat @RussGoerend "Work" at home? Or "learn" at home? #edchat @ShellTerrell son's tchr I mentioned earlier was Maths - oh and so am I #edchat @web20classroom This may b true, but that does not prove homework has more value. #edchat Alfie Kohn, bringing #edchat to the masses! Love that we're trending! :D Do tell! RT @nancydevine: @akohn09 do you think there's any way to make homework useful..meaningful? #edchat I think our kids are so involved in other things - no time! It becomes a source of family arguments, like we need more of those! #edchat RT @Parentella: @mbteach As a parent, I love that I get to bond with my kid. It gives me a way to lean more abt his school day #edchat Teachers who set the same homework year in, year out (i've seen this!!) are doing what we don't want our kids to do - LEARN! #edchat The P-20 pipeline should build 21st century, technology-literate learners who understand how to learn, unlearn and re-learn. #edchat Yes! We made it trend! Check one off the bucket list... #edchat @akohn09 I would love to see you do some kind of PBS doc. for large audience visiting schools w/out HW and schools w/ ! #edchat @blairteach @akohn09 tell me how, can't learn clarinet without practice feel the same about math #edchat @esolcourses I think for adult learners you need to make sure you know their goals and adapt the class and hw to that. #edchat @mbteach I love the aha moment when he gets something. HW is a way to know that sometimes in life u have to do things u don't like #edchat @mbteach I loved HW as a kid (I know). I loved school and the routine. I practice math tables with my son #edchat @tearoof this is a key point - must not be 'bolt on' activites but part of the whole scheme of work if hw is to be useful #edchat @zmanrdz She is in Kumon math. Last yr, 6 mos below grade level, now identified as gifted and placed yr ahead in math. #edchat Its about time an educational & meaningful topic became a trending topic! Thanks Alfie Kohn for making this happen #edchat RT @CotterHUE: RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested in? #edchat Training: Preparing kids for jobs. Education: Teaching kids to find meaning their own way. Have the two become blurred? when i taught K and 1st, I sent home "Homeplay" kits, child-centered and involving parents #edchat

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#edchat God loves you and cares for you @datadiva Teacher in Japan here. My kid went through Jpz public schools thru elementary. You're right. Different attitude re hmwk. #edchat @GameClassroom I'm for online learning, model learners and coaches to teach us how to learn, will be a key! #edchat @Janshs I don't grade specifically the collaboration but I will grade the product depending on what it is. #edchat @mbteach Great goal, but mandatory assignments from tchr hardly necessary #edchat @techicebreaker 10 ways to archive your tweets: http://bit.ly/RITXJ @Twilliamson15 what have you found that works (if anything)? #edchat @wbasinger Trouble is Alfie want to do away with the football team too! #edchat I want to thank Alfie Kohn (@akohn09) for joining us for tonights #edchat OK to debate whether HW helps ach, but remember undeniable negs: exhaustion, frustration, fam conflict, lack of time to be a kid #edchat Remember you can follow him on his regular Twitter account @alfiekohn #edchat Rt @CotterHUE #edchat Some prestudy means the class can spend more time on applying new target language in real & relevant activities. RT @ShellTerrell It's about time an educational & meaningful topic became a trending topic! Thanks Alfie Kohn for making this happen #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: Its about time an educational & meaningful topic became a trending topic! Thanks Alfie Kohn for making this happen #edchat Why is #edchat trending? Help explain why at What The Trend? http://wttrend.com/6837 @akohn09 Still have to work to learn, but I understand what you're getting at. #edchat @akohn09 Work has neg. connotation, but I see no wrong in encouraging stds to work. It's the demanding I don't do. #edchat @CotterHUE I don't think so. I think students need to do extra practice outside of class for EFL. Esp. Reading ( for pleasure) #edchat @Parentella A sad lesson to be repeated daily, and at the expense of love of learning #edchat @TheRebull Do you see that happening a lot (figuring it out on their own?) #edchat @wbasinger wow, that is impressive. I am going to try with my son too. #edchat And be sure to visit his website for more information on his books, dvds and lectures...http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.html #edchat RT @akohn09: OK to debate whether HW helps ach, but remember undeniable negs: exhaustion, frust, fam confl, lack of time to be kid #edchat RT @Parentella: I love the aha moment when he gets smthing. HW is a way 2 know that smetimes in life u have 2 do things u don't like #edchat RT @web20classroom: Remember you can follow him on his regular Twitter account @alfiekohn #edchat Structure class activities that are so engaging that stdnts see the need to increase their fluency with the skills of the subject. #edchat #edchat If anyone knows it I do :) @akohn09 :) I used to only find Geography HW. The others were fun. #edchat I think I have gr8 work ethic bcos of it. @MaryKayG And, better yet, we come to understand the limit of mere "skills" in creating an env. for learning #edchat @mbteach Then the tchr is working with half that did not and boring the other half. #edchat @Parentella @mbteach then maybe we should give parents homework, or in adult ed hand out pairhomework students do with their partner #edchat @wbasinger Awesome...She has learned how to learn. And probably excited about it. Keep the passion. #edchat chose to spend evenings on the farm learning abt engines, agriculture, and construction. Was that less beneficial than math tables? #edchat RT @ShellTerrell @melhutch:Shouldn't we focus on improving learning in schools- then find authentic hmwk that is worth the time #edchat RT @ShellTerrell @melhutch:Shouldn't we focus on improving learning in schools- then find authentic hmwk that is worth the time #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: If you are worried about having access to #edchat discussion. The wonderful edchat archiver @jswiatek is making archive RT @web20classroom: And be sure to visit his website for more info on his books, dvds,lectures...http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.html #edchat @Parentella How old R ur kids? I begrudge my kids' tchers the time wasted on meaningless assigns. Have told 12yo @ times not to do. #edchat B4 assigning HW do an honest cost/benefit analysis. What might the student gain vs. what will he lose? #edchat Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat RT:Itell tchrs if they wouldn't have someone absent ...make up HW, it wasn't worth doing in the first place. #edchat (via @blairteach) so, hw: differentiated, optional, non-graded, meaningful, real-world #edchat When DD moved to US, she was amazed at rewards. Kids asked "what'd u get 4 hmk in Jpn?" Her: "Passed the test" #edchat When DD moved to US, she was amazed at rewards. Kids asked "what'd u get 4 hmk in Jpn?" Her: "Passed the test" #edchat where do students gain the discipline to stick with something long enough to gain a deeper understanding of a subject area if not HW #edchat #edchat ? #questieschat 8D @akohn09 Absolutely. Math is so much more than accurate computations. Language is far more than spelling the words. #edchat @akohn09 True, in order 2 involve all stakeholders we must start small (teacher/student level 1st); admin MUST be in equation 2 #edchat @mom2preteens How does that go over with the teacher? #edchat @spedteacher I agree with you on that point - HW must be meaningful to the child and content - NOT busywork #edchat @tomwhitby which is why you don't assign it make them do it in class. Teachers have also used vid podcasts instead of readings 4 HW #edchat @zmanrdz An essential point is homework made a difference empirically. To say homework has no value is a dangerous thought #edchat attitude is critical to the learning process, whether you think you can, or cannot, you're right. HW experience can be + or a - #edchat Before anyone has to go, please help me out by filling out a two question survey, summarize your thoughs...http://is.gd/2yzXl #edchat Link to Alfie Kohn's books including The Homework Myth http://www.alfiekohn.org/books.htm #edchat RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing something that they're interested in? #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: Wow! RT @datadiva: How about that! @edchat is trending on the front page of twitter search! #edchat RT @spedteacher: B4 assigning HW do an honest cost/benefit analysis. What might the student gain vs. what will he lose? #edchat RT @spedteacher: B4 assigning HW do an honest cost/benefit analysis. What might the student gain vs. what will he lose? #edchat @mom2preteens Mine are 11 and 3 respectively. The 11 yr old is super into his HW now. #edchat @rsamhicks That kind of thinking strengthened the labor unions. Our work week does not extend beyond 40 hrs , but theirs does #edchat @spedteach what do u mean by cost benefit analysis? #edchat @wbasinger What's the danger? Families get their evenings back, kids get time to pursue learning on their own... #edchat Everyone studies differently. Hw shud be putting tools in the toolbox for students but not forcing them to use the tools. #edchat I wonder what President Obama feels about his girls' HW load/or lack of at Sidwell Friends School #edchat RT @akohn09: Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat RT @akohn09: Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat RT @eduinnovation Why give homework to student who know how to do it? Repetition for the sake of repetition is a waste of time. #edchat shouldn't kids be learning in the learning environment we create - not at home? #edchat We gave out optional quiz reviews for HW last year. If the students completed it, they could use it on their daily quiz. #edchat #edchat reading for pleasure is great for students to see how language is used. @nealchambers @leewin Cost benefit: Is the benefit from doing the work worth the investment of the time and effort. #edchat @rjwassink Same...farm related problem solving provided rich backdrop ...you'll know if you mix the herbicide to the wrong ratios #edchat @RussGoerend @akohn09 are you telling me you learned your times tables on one try? I doubt it. Let's be real here. #edchat @Taz5175 I think math was the only subject where HW helped. It was also my weak spot. The practice helped a lot #edchat Before anyone has to go, please help me out by filling out a two question survey, summarize your thoughts...http://is.gd/2yzXl #edchat Have we discussed HW for ELL? #edchat how about asking the kids what kind of hw te #edchat I am not interested in my KGner having 2 hrs of H.W./night. I'd rather play and talk with him on his choice of topics. #edchat made me:) - cos true RT @akohn09 HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented #edchat oops- what kind of hw they'd like to have? #edchat Perhaps we should give our students survey to see if their opinions on assts & hmwk! We may gain valuable insights #edchat RT @rroysden RT @ShellTerrell: Wow! RT @datadiva: How about that! @edchat is trending on the front page of twitter search! #edchat Ugh, this #edchat is just, ugh. Good or not, don't wanna know anything bout scholl YET. @leewin Costs: time, energy, lack of play time, frustration, etc. Benefit:reinforcement of learning, practice of new concepts, etc. #edchat @leewin You have to determine if what the student MIGHT gain is worth what it WILL cost. Gains are speculative, costs are real. #edchat @oline73 Doesn't have to be done at home. #edchat @RussGoerend Right. And with no intellectual disadvantage, according to the evidence #edchat @RussGoerend Will they pursue learning or mindlessly watch TV? As a parent, I push homework, the arts and their passions. #edchat @TweetToLearn I found practicing math problems for HW very helpful. At least when I understood what I was doing! #edchat @TweetToLearn I found practicing math problems for HW very helpful. At least when I understood what I was doing! #edchat Actually, I think that the unknown of what replaces HW is what is scary a little bit. If no HW, then what? #edchat I find hw that is interactive with family is most effective for my kindergarten kids. #edchat

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RT @akohn09 HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented #edchat Sorry, but think "homework" is neither good nor evil. A tool which can be used. Definition here includes any work outside class? #edchat Worthy intentions notwithstdg, Hmwk may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. -@alfiekohn #edchat @mbteach Key idea: "If I understood what I was doing." A BIG IF in many cases. #edchat @mbteach Not that I've seen. Think ELL is closer to musical instrument--practice means repetition :) #edchat @nealchambers Homework as a tool in the toolbox is an interesting idea. Hopefully students will open the toolbox for something!! #edchat @oline73 Give students a reason to learn their times tables and they'll learn them, with or without you assigning it as HW. #edchat @oline73 You learn about what multiplication means in class and you develop your fluency at home. #edchat @Parentella quality time with kids, getting to sleep on time, play, kid's choice... we do learn through play... #edchat @RussGoerend @wbasinger Perhaps there is no danger, just really the fear of the unknown??..#edchat @spedteacher not sure, but it's worth encouraging, right? Rote vs critical thinking after all #edchat @therebull If thew kid can figure it out on his own using critical thinking, why does he need a teacher. #edchat am working with a teacher this year who does not assign any homework at all other than to read. She's an 8th gr lang arts teacher. #edchat RT @web20classroom: Before anyone has to go, plz help me out by filling out a 2 ? survey, summarize ur thoughts.http://is.gd/2yzXl #edchat so, it's 1 am here in the UK &it's back 2 school for me tomorrow so that's me signing off - thx for gr8 #edchat - will catch archive tom eve Thank you all for this #edchat. I'd <3 2 have students research HW (in class) & share findings w/ class/admin/parents/et. #edchat my special ed kids ask, why homework if I know how to do it already..waste of time...why homework if I just forget what I am doing @blairteach yes, and when I didn't understand: TEARS!!! #edchat @Janshs Good night! #edchat @mbteach speaking of podcasts for HW, have you read the article about taking tech out of the classroom http://tinyurl.com/mlaely #edchat @nealchambers agree with you. I tend to try and tailor courses to tally with learner's interests, where syllabus allows scope 4 it #edchat @NMHS_Principal That might be as much as 1000's of battles per school btween Parents and tchrs #edchat @spedteacher the effort/will to solve problems independently is probably more valuable long term than mere "intelligence" #edchat @wbasinger @RussGoerend Parents and teachers can collaborate to come up what new HW should look like could be a way fwd #edchat I read studies in Ch 2 of Homework Myth & was surprised by years of results #edchat I think HW is tied 2 the much bigger q's about curriculum n methods of tchng. I rec. "The Schools Our Children Deserve" by @akohn09 #edchat Lang tchs often give 'learn vocab' for HW; not much help if they don't know how to learn it effectively #edchat @blairteach and to you too #edchat @drkmcneil Good thing your kids smart enough to question this? At least they arent so accepting of it, some think way of life #edchat @Presentparent :) Trust me, if my kid hated his HW, I'd be with you. He seems to enjoy it. #edchat @RussGoerend so you are advocating repetitive drill time instead of instruction? Or are you saying extend the school day? #edchat @tjmeister 13mm is almost 1/2", measurement, oil capacity, etc - I learned this with a set of $5 tools and an old lawnmower. #edchat RT @web20classroom: B4 anyone has to go, please help me out by filling out a 2 question survey of your thoughts...http://is.gd/2yzXl #edchat #edchat How about shortening number of class hrs by 2 per day, adding a 2 hr per day mandatory study hall, and lengthening school year? #edchat must eat and shower and sleep for early wake-up. Thanks for the thoughts. See you next week! @blairteach Good nite! Thanks for being part of the experience to make this a trending topic #edchat @JenAnsbach By your choice or by contract? #edchat @MaryKayG I agree. Practice is vital in learning anything you are introduced to in class. #edchat @oline73 As I said, if there's a need to learn times tables, kids will learn it. #edchat @Parentella Luck him! So let's make it voluntary so only kids who enjoy it & therefore are likely to benefit have to do it #edchat @Parentella out of curiosity, does he enjoy the work or the routine? #edchat @spedteacher they won't always figure it out on their own, but critical thinking certainly doesn't always require a teacher #edchat I wonder if i will like #edchat awesome http://redir.ec/vrvq Im looking at #edchat the best..... http://redir.ec/wTfc RT @ShellTerrell: Wow! RT @datadiva: How about that! @edchat trending on front page of twitter search! #edchat we have reached critical mass We must find HW that works for each kid. Some benefit from repitition, some from doing sth creative. #edchat It takes all kinds!! #edchat Mandatory in #edchat the perennial homework debate. Analysis of studies show... homework helps http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2006/03/homework.html @akohn09 I agree. It takes all kinds. I have learnt so much from this discussion. I see both sides. Balance is key #edchat @tomgrissom I saw that on Twitter, just added it to Diigo. Here's my experience w/naked teaching: #edchat http://bit.ly/3mPPH2 @tomwhitby Parents and teachers have similar intentions for the kids' learning...just need to dispel some HW myths. #edchat feel I am at a disadvantage from the corn and bean fields of rural Illinois, my Internet connection is sloooooowww #edchat Just sat down after dinner, have to read #edchat - looks like there was good convo going on. RT @Taz5175: @blairteach @akohn09 tell me how, can't learn clarinet without practice feel the same about math #edchat Some subjects demand practice/memorization (ie, formulas, maps, etc.). As a lang. arts teacher, I ass'n reading & reviewing notes. #edchat @oline73 ...but that practice doesn't necessarily need to be assigned by the teacher! #edchat @Parentella Pls see my analysis of Harris Cooper's data vs. his conclusions - ch 4 of Homework Myth #edchat @Presentparent I must say that at his prev school, the HW was TOO much 2-3 hrs a day. In his new school, it is less than an hour. #edchat @rjwassink My most memerable JH learning event was finding way to determine speed of a tractor during spraying season... #edchat @RussGoerend good luck with that approach. #edchat Be The First twitter #edchat http://bit.ly/wKRQh in the digital age NOTHING needs to be memorized - info is at our fingertips. #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: Link to Alfie Kohn's books including The Homework Myth http://www.alfiekohn.org/books.htm #edchat RT @spedteacher: B4 assigning HW do an honest cost/benefit analysis. What might the student gain vs. what will he lose? #edchat RT @web20classroom: Remember you can follow him on his regular Twitter account @alfiekohn #edchat @oline73 The same to you with drill-and-kill. #edchat everyones talking about #edchat im going on a diet ! http://redir.ec/fgcH I'm searching for middle school math live on TweetGrid Search - http://bit.ly/bM17h RT @tomwhitby: RT @web20classroom: Remember you can follow him on his regular Twitter account @alfiekohn #edchat spedteacher #edchat I :) at your homework bring a pencil. My sped kids think if they don't bring 1 they don't have 2 work. I supply them! Thank you @alfiekohn for participating in #edchat! Even though we all don't agree, it is a worthy discussion for educators to have. #edchat what can a student lose by doing homework? time playing games or time learning? how do we know? homework is evidence of activity @akohn09 I'd love to. In our current district, they also moved away from having too much HW. I think that helps. #edchat @akohn09 of course. We have been fortunate to have gr8 teachers so far. 1 changed my son's life. #edchat V. gr8ful and thankful all tchrs. @marybrebner do you find the results from you stdnts improve their learning? #edchat @mbteach we actually provide a "working lunch" time...not as punishment but as focused work time for "non-completers"...it helps #edchat @Rachel_Elliott: True that! More important is researching and analysis skills to find and discriminate information instead #edchat Extreme anti-hmk stance is as dogmatic as pro-hmk. Assigning or dismissing hmk w/o thought exactly what we're NOT trying to model. #edchat LOVES that even teachers who participate in #edchat are summarizing at the end of the discussion! Summarizing is KEY to processing new info! RT @akohn09: OK to debate whether HW helps ach, but remember undeniable negs: exhaustion, frust, fam confl, lack of time to be kid #edchat RT @akohn09: Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat RT @web20classroom: Before any1 has to go, pls help me out by filling out a 2 ques survey, sumrize your thoughs...http://is.gd/2yzXl #edchat Some of our elem. students have hours worth of homework! They're kids & play time is as important as study time. BALANCE is key. #edchat @akohn09 I came from an Indian school and HW here is nothing like we got. ;) #edchat @ShellTerrell which means we're awaiting, (and beginning to see) the flood of #edchat spam @Twilliamson15 do you think HW helps your students-what is your school's attitude toward HW? #edchat Just curious! Bummed to have missed the #edchat tonight! Hoping to view the archive summary! imho: One key is to make sure homework is not punitive either by design or perception. #edchat RT @Rachel_Elliott In the digital age NOTHING needs to be memorized - info is at our fingertips. #edchat -> Maybe. Memory still neccessary. RT @ShellTerrell: Link to Alfie Kohn's books including The Homework Myth http://www.alfiekohn.org/books.htm #edchat RT I agree @parentella Parents and teachers can collaborate to come up what new HW should look like could be a way fwd #edchat What I am hearing is that HW must be differentiated and suited to each child's learning style. #edchat You can also download Alfie Kohn's books immediately to Iphone or Kindle via same Amazon link http://bit.ly/nX0QE #edchat

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@barbsaka I feel that ELL students have completely diff needs, especially when it comes to HW #edchat @barbsaka What if I dismiss HW after a lot of thought? Is that okay, or should I just sit on the fence until I fall off? #edchat @barbsaka What if I dismiss HW after a lot of thought? Is that okay, or should I just sit on the fence until I fall off? #edchat @barbsaka What if I dismiss HW after a lot of thought? Is that okay, or should I just sit on the fence until I fall off? #edchat @LeesaWatego @parentella Shouldn't students be part of that decision making, too? #edchat @mbteach #edchat Marzano likes homework, if used right. @Presentparent We will see. :) I think it may provide him sth constant in teen yrs also. 2 more years. :( #edchat sigh, they grow too fast. @Twilliamson15 love the idea of working lunch. I think many families don't want the stress of enforcing HW #edchat @Twilliamson15 This true but its exciting that finally educators can be heard about important topics & others will be curious #edchat RT @Katjewave: imho: One key is to make sure homework is not punitive either by design or perception. #edchat @akohn09 Thank u for a riveting discussion! Let's hope the discussion continues in everyone's schools and homes #edchat @leewin Had to teach kids HOW to study-looking over notes once is not studying. Once they know, it works. & reading always helps. #edchat @MaryKayG the kids who need te practice the most won't voluntarily do it. That's why HW is vital. #edchat @mbteach thanks for the link, will read after chat here is a link to my post about the teach naked article http://tinyurl.com/mxfhm9 #edchat @spedteacher Sure, Yes. I think that would be great. I wonder what my son will say. I will provide info on the next #edchat. RT @mbteach @barbsaka I feel that ELL students have completely diff needs, especially when it comes to HW #edchat RT @web20classroom: RT @CotterHUE: RT @LeesaWatego: Why can't homework be about a student pursuing what they're interested in? #edchat RT Re_SearchingEdTrue that! More important is researching and analysis skills to find and discriminate information instead #edchat YESSSSSSS @mbteach school tends toward less HW than more..indiv. tchrs of course have diff. opinions..I think my HW rly helps those that do it #edchat @mhtalbut Pls see my discussion of Marzano's misrepresentation of evid. in chap. 4 of HW Myth (& in Kappan) #edchat @Parentella My 12yo used to do so much writing-notebooks full-before she had homework that was more than nightly reading. #edchat @spedteacher very good point. So its a 3 or 4 way process of collaboration - teachers, students, parents & community #edchat I hate to use the term but HW leaves behind students who can least afford to fall behind - vicious cycle #edchat RT @wbasinger: @RussGoerend Will they pursue learning or mindlessly watch TV? As a parent, I push h/w the arts & their passions. #edchat RT@Parentella What I am hearing is that HW must be differentiated and suited to each child's learning style. #edchat Thank you to everyone who is now following me as a result of the comments I've made here. I'll acknowledge individually soon. #edchat Very grateful to be learning from all the participation here! I really appreciate all the commt to student learning. Ty! #edchat #edchat Just to put in my 2 cents worth as a student - often when we (students) skip homework, it's because it's uninteresting or unhelpful. @LeesaWatego Yes, but I bet all those people could find something much more essential than HW to talk about. #edchat @marybrebner I agree that teachers need to provide a lot of support for HOW to study independently #edchat @mbteach when done/well IAN assignments get to deeper understanding & connections across topics...done hastily there's little value #edchat @mom2preteens oh wow, yeah maybe that is too much! #edchat @Presentparent Agreed, but that is only the start. #edchat @thadhaines D. Meier says anyone who wanted to widen the ach gap would eventually invent homework #edchat @Twilliamson15 then you must be doing HW right! #edchat Did ya'll see who Zack Efron is snooping with? #edchat Interactive Notebooks - someone raised this concept B4. Can anyone share links to this? #edchat OK now 1:20 am in UK but thanks all for #edchat great conversation but bedfordshire calling RT @barbsaka Extreme anti-hmk stance is as dogmatic as pro-hmk. dismissing hmk w/o thought what we're NOT trying to model. #edchat RT @thadhaines: I hate to use the term but HW leaves behind students who can least afford to fall behind - vicious cycle #edchat RT @thadhaines: I hate to use the term but HW leaves behind students who can least afford to fall behind - vicious cycle YES! #edchat RT@Parentella What I am hearing is that HW must be differentiated and suited to each child's learning style. #edchat @akohn09 Agreed. Hated seeing my kid up 'til 2 am w/hmk in hs. But, hate to see any T dismiss a tool just because it's poorly used. #edchat @linus_norris unhelpful in what way? What could we do to improve? #edchat @Presentparent I am sure that will change. Look at this discussion! Parents and teachers will collaborate for our children! #edchat @wbasinger time with their kids, the good ones will aid learning. HW doesn't get done around the "not good" ones anyway. #edchat BTW, kids play is way more important than studying. #edchat RT @Mtranslato @ShellTerrell: Alfie Kohn also has lots of articles on rewards & punishments schools http://www.alfiekohn.org/ta... #edchat @Rachel_Elliott Yr also hearing that it makes sense to question whether HW really needs to be assigned at all #edchat Despite the name HW, I usually give kids time to do before school with peer or my help. #edchat LeesaWatego Interactive Notebooks - someone raised this concept B4. Can anyone share links to this? #edchat Not just HW, but school! RT @akohn09 let's make it voluntary so only kids who enjoy it have to do it #edchat RT @@parentella Parents and teachers can collaborate to come up what new HW should look like could be a way fwd #edchat (what Aparna said!) RT @akohn09: @thadhaines D. Meier says anyone who wanted to widen the ach gap would eventually invent homework #edchat RT @barbsaka Extreme anti-hmk stance is as dogmatic as pro-hmk. dismissing hmk w/o thought what were NOT trying to model. #edchat Rt @Nealchambers Everyone studies differently. Hw shud be putting tools in the toolbox 4 students but not forcing them to use them. #edchat .@mbteach #edchat about 50-60% of students w/computer, my homework done in class or at home, done at home to b cool for parents @datadiva No. She passed the test because she did the homework :) Her US friends did the homework to get reward (points) #edchat @JenAnsbach I understand and agree,but it is your choice to do so. The contract defines the hours.You choose to do more.Professional #edchat @LeesaWatego Interactive Notebooks: http://www.sharetabs.com/?ians #edchat So many of my parents work 2-3 jobs & have no time to help students, even if they want to. HW's only effective if supported. #edchat @jbrooks19 thanks for that #edchat @mom2preteens that is fairly anecdotal and could be tied to other developmental/social changes. Why do you feel HW was cause? #edchat @tonnet I loved doing interactive notebooks when my students could write independently! I think everyone benefited. #edchat @tonnet Interactive notebook link: http://bit.ly/JOl1x DId you participate in #edchat tonight? Tell me what you think about the hw debate... http://is.gd/2yzXl I've heard some folks never use term homework but challenge students to explore topics further & offer variety of options #edchat RT @jkdham @wbasinger: @RussGoerend Pursue learning or mindlessly watch TV? As a parent, I push h/w the arts & their passions. #edchat RT @mbteach: @ShellTerrell I remember taking my HW to my dad to help me. HE went 2 college, had trouble doing it! #edchat I RT @ShellTerrell: You can also download Alfie Kohn's books immediately to Iphone or Kindle via same Amazon link http://bit.ly/nX0QE #edchat There needs to be more funding for art programs and less funding for sports teams, but keep gym class to keep kids fit. #edchat @marybrebner Our school limits homework to no more than 30 minutes K-3 and 60 minutes for 4th - 6th. #edchat @ShellTerrell #edchat often call my HW activities "Sinkers" or "Out" activities @tomgrissom thanks-look forward to reading it! #edchat @tomwhitby ...failure if we teach them otherwise. #edchat I too, forgot abt event. RT @theresagray: Bummed to have missed the #edchat tonight! Hoping to view the archive summary! Reading the #edchat discussions.....lots of dogmatic folks out there. RT @ShellTerrell ...some folks never use term homework but challenge students to explore topics further & offer variety of options #edchat RT @spedteacher @tonnet Interactive notebook link: http://bit.ly/JOl1x #edchat RT @tomwhitby: @web20classroom I spent 34 yrs in the classroom. I teach my student teachers HMWK is not necessary. #edchat @cbrannon HW is overall a rather divisive topic, don't you think? #edchat @cbrannon True! no one's completely right or wrong-it's all about balance and what's best for the students and their learning! #edchat @gamesafoot Sensible! Homework shouldn't take away from play time or family time. And it should enhance learning done during day. #edchat @spedteacher Simple, profound, & true: play is more important. Kids don't get enough time to play. #edchat @tomwhitby Yes, much remains. Still, conversation re what really supports kids is happening here. Thx for the forum for change. #edchat @weemooseus would you rather them do it at home? #edchat Another attempt to say good night & thank you all. My last few msgs haven't shown up #edchat Homework optional in my class, students w/computer at home like to show online learning to parents/siblings #edchat RT @akohn09: @mhtalbut Pls see my discussion of Marzano's misrepresentation of evid. in chap. 4 of HW Myth (& in Kappan) #edchat RT @spedteacher: @tonnet Interactive notebook link: http://bit.ly/JOl1x #edchat RT @Twilliamson15: @ShellTerrell #edchat often call my HW activities "Sinkers" or "Out" activities so many variables in students' abilities & home lives, hw cannot be one size fits all #edchat To expect homework to benefit kids though they hate it is to assume they are like vending machines: HW in, learning out. -@alfiekohn #edchat

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#edchat @thisised Has Chat?!?!? Raaaaaah @akohn09 And thank you again for participating! We enjoyed it! #edchat @Presentparent You are very welcome. #edchat @ShellTerrell designed to help learning "sink" in or carry it "out" of the classroom...reframes the assign. in some ways #edchat I really think that all schools should implement a 40 hour week cap for kids to include school hours + assigned HW #edchat RT @akohn09: Another attempt to say good night & thank you all. My last few msgs haven't shown up #edchat RT @jbrooks19: @LeesaWatego Interactive Notebooks: http://www.sharetabs.com/?ians #edchat RT @spedteacher: B4 assigning homework do an honest cost/benefit analysis. What might the student gain vs. what will he lose? #edchat So true! RT @tearoof so many variables in students' abilities & home lives, hw cannot be one size fits all #edchat Thank You @akohn09 invigorating discussion #edchat @gamesafoot who decides how long it will take the students to complete? #edchat RT @Katjewave: RT @spedteacher @tonnet Interactive notebook link: http://bit.ly/JOl1x #edchat RT @marciamarcia 2 expect homework 2 benefit kids tho they hate it is 2 assume they R vending machines:HW in,learning out @alfiekohn #edchat Thank you so much for a great conversation! Look forward to getting to know more of you. :) #edchat Why pick on HW? Bad lectures are bad. So is bad group work. Any activity can be designed to be useful or poorly designed and fail #edchat @cytochromec That's a great point. What does good HW look like? #edchat @trice25 I wish my job did the same :) #edchat @Twilliamson15 Thats a gr8 description! I was wondering at first! Plus hmwk has so many negative connotations like using a red pen #edchat Amen! RT @trice25 I really think that all schools should implement a 40 hour week cap for kids to include school hours+assigned HW #edchat Great conversations going on at #edchat about HW with basis for discussion from @alfiekohn @akohn09 IAN links for those interested #edchat folks http://www.sharetabs.com/?ians RTcytochromec: Why pick on HW? Bad lectures are bad. So is bad group work. Any activity can be designed to be useful or poorly #edchat TRUE Thanks to everyone for this discusion. Lots to think about. Should revisit this topic again to see the changes it has made in class. #edchat #edchat give students an out if they can't do the assigned hw. That way they are more apt to at least try if they know no penalty. @barbsaka I see... interesting! thanks for the follow up #edchat @gamesafoot I'm sure they love you for it! #edchat @mbteach It's an honor system - when I monitor homework after school, I cut them off at an hour, regardless of the teacher. #edchat @Twilliamson15 Nice! That's what HW or extra activities should do-help info sink in. Like quick refreshers when they come in, too. #edchat @wmchamberlain when the student is ready a master will appear, getting them when the iron is hot and malleable #edchat I would LOVE to read a blog by a tchr who was moving away fr. a traditional homework approach to something else... #edchat RT @spedteacher: BTW, kids play is way more important than studying. #edchat So is family time for the teachers! RT @web20classroom: DId you participate in #edchat tonight? Tell me what you think about the hw debate... http://is.gd/2yzXl Thank you to @alfiekohn, @tomwhitby, @web20classroom and anyone else involved in presenting this chat tonight. #edchat THanks everyone for a great #edchat--let's keep trending on Twitter! I've learned a lot tonight. #edchat There's no correlation between http://sn.im/homework-and learning. Thoughful piece by @hjarche #edchat #edchat http://cli.gs/3edrW : #edchat is a live discussion on Twitter among educators around the world about issues in education. It happ.. @akohn09 Thank you for your insights and thought-provoking questions #edchat @spedteacher And thanks to you for participating! #edchat Can't hang around chatting anymore here as i'm off checking out the links from this discussion - Lol - thanks again. #edchat I think HW should be something beyond normal classwork such as interviewing someone or collecting real world data to graph #edchat RT @leewin Thanks to everyone for discussion. Lots to think abt. Should revisit topic again to see changes it has made in class. #edchat Thank you as well to all my colleagues who always challenge me to think and teach me so much. #edchat thanks to all participants- much to think about & reflect upon #edchat There's no correlation between http://sn.im/homework-and learning. Thoughtful piece by @hjarche. #edchat Wish I could do an experiment w/ my 2 gifted classes 1 w/ hw the other w/o but cnt experiment w/ kids education parents wld freak #edchat Yes! RT @spedteacher: Thank you as well to all my colleagues who always challenge me to think and teach me so much. #edchat @Taz5175 But how cool would that be...I would love to see someone do it! #edchat Another great chat. Thanks. I'll have to read the transcript to catch up; difficult to follow all the threads of conversation. #edchat First time I actually got to participate in #edchat "live"... Thanks for getting my brain moving this morning :) Heading out for the night. Thanks for the challenging thoughts everyone! Great to see so much passion. #edchat RT @Katjewave: RT@Parentella What I am hearing is that HW must be differentiated and suited to each child's learning style. #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: Wow! RT @datadiva @edchat trending on front page of twitter search! #edchat we have reached critical mass (via @jkdham) thank you all for welcoming me to my first #edchat Thanks for the #edchat, folks - It's been really interesting! @concretekax I agree with your point that HW should include collecting real data or interviews. More than just hunching over books. #edchat @Parentella 2hrs for 6yo! Crazy! I don't mind authentic tasks, just ones that seem like busy work. #edchat @Taz5175 Why not try giving 2 diff types of hw to the diff classes? (perhaps 1 more reflective, 1 more ?) #edchat @youngvet125 whys is there a #edchat as a trending topic lol nigggas love u, did u ever find out about ur made up facebook? Is #edchat every week? Of the studies about hw, what percent would you guess are methodologically sound? #edchat RT @marciamarcia: There's no correlation between http://sn.im/homework-and learning. Thoughtful piece by @hjarche. #edchat Thanks everyone for the #edchat conversation, it was fun, wonder if I can assign a chat like this for HW to my students ;) tongue in cheek #edchat My grade school principal used a paddle he called "the Heater". I behaved as much as possible. @Parentella Every tuesday night at 7pm EST #edchat Every Teacher Tuesday we have an #edchat conversation at 7pm EST just look for hashtag Now how to follow all the new friend on #edchat RT @web20classroom: DId you participate in #edchat tonight? Tell me what you think about the hw debate... http://is.gd/2yzXl Sorry I missed #edchat but getting destroyed in monopoly by my 7yr old son was more important tonight. Thanks to all who enrich my teaching and tweeting! I'm learning! #edchat What is #edchat? #edchat Thank you all so much for the info, ideas, and challenges to my own thinking. @concretekax We will get an archive together and get the link out...asap #edchat @marciamarcia: re homework extinguishing curiosity: arguably HW= learning to follow orders, so HW=curiosity-killing exercise? #edchat @Taz5175 :) I experiment a lot with my students, lessons & HW. Parents seem to understand teaching & learning constantly evolving. #edchat I do a lot of problem/project based learning but rarely assign HW. Students often CHOOSE to spend home time on projects #edchat Is there an easy way to view the archive of the #edchat stream? RT @gamesafoot @marybrebner Our school limits homework to no more than 30 minutes K-3 and 60 minutes for 4th - 6th. #edchat RT @Twilliamson15: @cbrannon HW is overall a rather divisive topic, don't you think? #edchat I think that we can all agree on that! @concretekax You can also do a search on Twitter for #edchat and read backwards.... @ShiftParadigm #edchat u can't study "homework" any more than u can study "tech integration" 2 many variables- not a thing, prt of a process @spedteacher If you think no hmk is best for your class, then yes, dismiss it. Just don't eliminate it as option for different class #edchat HW should be tiered to students. Otherwise, both the slackers & strugglers resort to copying someone else’s HW. Nothing learned. #edchat #edchat - However, tiered homework might cause division in the students - resenting those who do better. @LeesaWatego this will be my 4th year using them...feel free to ask ?s, I'll do my best to share what I can on interactive notebooks #edchat @RussGoerend well good homework for some topics might be practice, 4 others it might be creation/application/discussion #edchat Awesome! RT @ShellTerrell Every Teacher Tuesday we have an #edchat conversation at 7pm EST just look for hashtag Awesome! RT @ShellTerrell Every Teacher Tuesday we have an #edchat conversation at 7pm EST just look for hashtag #edchat Why waste time on the slackers? If they don't care about educ., don't force it on them. Spend time on the smart kids, who care. have been in tweetchat with #edchat . Now catching up on tweets & @ replies back home in twitter. hopefully some more news on #edchat kewl http://redir.ec/LuF2 How long before parents say "I'm looking for an sch. w/ limits on HW, reflective teachers w/ fab PLN's, & a blogging principal"? #edchat RT @tomwhitby: We will get an archive together and get the link out...asap #edchat THANKS We will get an archive together and get the link out...asap #edchat

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@butwait far longer than it should be...it won't happen at least until we move on to something even better ;) #edchat @butwait I say it should be a school that enables conversations between the school and parents #edchat Plus what you said. :) @linus_norris true that teachers put less thought into HW design. However, when I did that, I heard about it the next day! #edchat @linus_norris You can't give up on any student. Even the "slackers". Glass half full-they'll wake up and get it one day! :) #edchat @marciamarcia: In other wds, HW's usual purpose is at odds w/curiosity, so HW that feeds curiosity has 2b designed w/that intent #edchat @meheinz Sorry for slow response.Just click on hashtag #edchat @rjwassink Listening is contribution also. :) #edchat @shannonbauley #edchat â € Chris Brown â € Hell's Kitchen â € Warehouse 13 â € Snow Leopard â € Rihamma â € #edchat â € Arkham Asylum â € District 9 â € RIP Aaliyah â € Tues 8 â € Enjoyed CNN interview w/@alfiekohn re meaninglessness of homework. Love people who make me think! http://bit.ly/b9R3w #edchat I would guess that close to 0% are methodologically sound. @ShiftParadigm #edchat RT @marybrebner: Many of my parents work 2-3 jobs & have no time to help students [w/ homework], even if they want to. #edchat #hcr The learning conundrum! RT @marciamarcia Intentions aside, homework may be most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity. @alfiekohn #edchat Wish I could've contributed more, but since I never did homework and never assign it... I'm not really an expert on it :-) #edchat @barbsaka I would never outlaw HW, but I won't assign it and support anyone who refuses to do it. #edchat @web20classroom Thanks for being the follower who brought me into the #edchat conversation. See your here next week! Some slackers result because of a lack of challenges in the classroom. #edchat With hs students I've tutored, math homework was a time to practice problems incorrectly leading to more confusion #edchat Wow-gotta say, I love the "block" feature for those "haters" of education out there!! (and the naked chicks--eew!) #edchat #edchat Give them the opportunity, yes! Don't force it down their throats if they don't want it. @marybrebner I agree. All students deserve equal opportunity. #edchat engagement is the responsibility of the teacher - there are no slackers - just poorly designed lessons #edchat RT @akohn09 Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat @marciamarcia: I've seen HW assignments that kill curiosity & learning, but also ones that make them soar: design, intent key~ #edchat @marybrebner @Katjewave @web20classroom Will need 2 reflect on ths. I wld need a plan & perhaps sum rlly gd ideas from U all. #edchat @marybrebner @Katjewave @web20classroom Will need 2 reflect on ths. I wld need a plan & perhaps sum rlly gd ideas from U all. #edchat @Parentella It is hard to remember that some days but that's why teachers (& kids) need time outside of school to relax & recharge. #edchat @Rachel_Elliott and parents. Teachers and parents must be involved together. #edchat @Rachel_Elliott and parents. Teachers and parents must be involved together. #edchat Meet them where they ARE, right? RT @Rachel_Elliott: engagement is the responsibility of the teacher #edchat Next week we need someone who wrote a book pro-homework. Data can be interpreted so many dif ways - never know whos right #edchat Is anyone? RT @Parentella @hjarche @marciamarcia there is no correlation between homework & learning http://is.gd/2yAyM #edchat (Yes, #edchat's weekly) engagement is important yes but some are not in the mindset for learning no matter how good the lesson is. #edchat @Parentella: true but if the parents are not going to get invovled the least I can do is make ed meaningful for kids #edchat make sure you have a look at #edchat the best..... http://redir.ec/UmMX RT @coletteamber: With hs students I've tutored, math homework was a time to practice problems incorrectly leading to more confusion #edchat RT @trice25: I do a lot of PBL but rarely assign HW. Students often CHOOSE to spend home time on projects #edchat - My experience too! The trending of HW to K-1st is wild. #edchat #edchat It's completely true. Face it - the world needs ditch-diggers too. Pessimistic but true. Some will always end up at the bottom. @Taz5175 I would love to see something like that in action...sounds like something really amazing! #edchat @leewin You will love our article: http://bit.ly/HE3an and http://bit.ly/AhPDf. Part 3 tonight. #edchat @shannonbauley Thanks for participating! And thanks for following! #edchat RT @ShiftParadigm: Of the studies about homework, what percent would you guess are methodologically sound? #edchat (<10%?) RT @trice25: I do a lot of problem/project based learning but rarely assign HW. Students often CHOOSE to spend home time on projects #edchat @daylynn It's the teachers like you that make school fun for people - not the teachers that assign homework for the sake of hw. #edchat @iago_rodrigues @JayresC RT @ShellTerrell Every Teacher Tuesday we have an #edchat conversation re learning at 7pm EST; look for hashtag @leewin Take your time! This teacher is so awesome. #edchat @linus_norris No, you're right. But still want to give them opportunity to learn if they want to. They just have to take initiative. #edchat @lizditz you're an optimist! #edchat @Parentella will read and tweet back! thanks! #edchat @Rachel_Elliot Where do the bottom end people come from? The construction workers, the minimum wage workers - they interested kids? #edchat RT @marciamarcia: I've seen HW assignments that kill curiosity & learning, but also ones that make them soar: design, intent key~ #edchat RT @akohn09 Our worthy intentions notwithstdg, HW in reality may be the most powerful extinguisher of kids' curiosity yet invented. #edchat RT @marciamarcia: There's no correlation between http://sn.im/homework-and learning. Thoughtful piece by @hjarche. #edchat RT @trice25: I do a lot of problem/project based learning but rarely assign HW. Students often CHOOSE to spend home time on projects #edchat @cadkinson check out #edchat. Great fun for a tuesday night. Weekly event. @spedteacher That sounds fair enough to me :) #edchat What would happen if teachers purposely designed homework in encourage curiosity, inquiry, exploration, collaboration? #edchat @butwait I would like that for my children, but I think many parents are clueless about different ways to teach #edchat @linus_norris why are they at the "bottom" aren't they just different skills? #edchat @marybrebner By all means give them the opportunity if they want it - just don't take it away from those who do. #edchat @oline73 So if they don't do the HW you punish them for it? #edchat B's & G's Time marches on and I am Marching to bed. Thank you all for attending. We will be posting info for next week's #edchat soon. THX RT @marciamarcia: I've seen HW assignments that kill curiosity & learning, but also ones that make them soar: design, intent key~ #edchat RT @eduinnovation What if teachers purposely designed homework 2 encourage curiosity, inquiry, exploration, collaboration? ~AWESOME! #edchat RT @KarenJan: how many have our own kids struggling 2get summer reading finished B4 the start of school? they learn to hate reading #edchat #edchat My personal feeling about homework... 10 min per grade lvl, no new concepts, & the biggy - CAN ONLY HELP GRADE NOT HURT IT @barbsaka Its a struggle sometimes, but I TRY to be reasonable. : ) #edchat @eduinnovation Then people would care and want to do it. #edchat @linus_norris Exactly! Can't take away opportunities for those who are actively trying to learn, participate. #edchat @Re_SearchingEd @marciamarcia: regrets 4 being late to this #edchat; re HW, Sidwell reputedly has LOTS of HW in MS/HS; some say 2much BTW Feel free to carry on without me. We have the chat room all night. #edchat. Power to the PLN #edchat: #edchat is a live discussion on Twitter among educators around the world about issues in education. It .. http://bit.ly/wKRQh @isaaabellaa do you think homework helps improve your learning? #edchat @linus_norris teachers really do care about ALL students. We can't just ignore "slackers", but have to find ways to motivate #edchat @linus_norris is making a lot of money the definition of success-teachers make way less than minimum wage when you include the hours!#edchat @mbteach The teachers don't necessarily approve, but I write my note and say they did 60 minutes. Prevents school burnout. #edchat @Rachel_Elliott Leading your life doing something you hate to get enough money to barely survive is not 'just different skills'. #edchat Summer reading used to be optional for those interested in learning/reading. The movement should be back to that mentality. #edchat @Rachel_Elliott no, success is doing something you like - not something that makes you miserable. #edchat @ScottElias @concretekax @lizditz -- if that's the case then debate about HW is as much about research methodology as T-practice. #edchat @Twilliamson15 Thank you! #edchat Agreed! RT @Twilliamson15: thanks to all those who've added to the discussion on HW and those I've added to my PLN this evening #edchat BTW Feel free to carry on without me. We have the chat room all night. #edchat. Power to the PLN RT @spedteacher: RT @KarenJan: Do U have own kids struggling 2get sum reading done B4 school? HATE proj. that ruin books & reading. #edchat Thanks to all educators who debated, exchanged ideas! Thanks to you mindless spam not top trend but something meaningful #edchat thanks to all those who've added to the discussion on HW and those I've added to my PLN this evening #edchat .@ShiftParadigm well, 0% is included in <10%. So few ed studies well designed & executed (if studies done at all!) #edchat @ResplendentlyMe I tutored a student this summer and we did the summer reading together. It helped him to share the work. #edchat @rroysden Thank you. #edchat #edchat: #edchat is a live discussion on Twitter among educators around the world about issues in education. It happens every Tuesday. Fo.. @lizditz exactly! #edchat @spedteacher That would be @ShellTerrell. Thank you for participating. #edchat

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@Twilliamson15 @web20classroom I missed the HW discussion but posted about it without knowing. Thanks 4 topic 2day #edchat RT @spedteacher @KarenJan: many kids struggling 2get summer reading finished B4 the start of school-they learn to hate reading